Just wondering, has anyone tried or done the Herbst maneuver in the simulator?
Like the su-57 battle scene in Top Gun Maverick.
Maybe with an addon aircraft I dont have one so … You decide :Herbst maneuver - Wikipedia
I never managed to get anything similar to a Cobra in FS. The planes just kept flying, weird inertia.
Now I have the Hawk, it drifts a bit more but doesn’t have enough thrust for that.
Ive done it in the f18 without too much issue, never had an opponent chasing me in this when I was in the f/a 18, I did get chased in Ukraine by a Su27, and I was in the 208 did a split S which apparently confused him because when he corrected he ended up hitting the ground…
do you mean the Asobo F-18? Have they changed anything on the flight model since it came out?
I find it interesting that you can actually almost get a Cobra with Superhornet. But only almost.
F-18 Super Hornet Attempts Cobra Maneuver - Comment what you think - YouTube
I’ll try it on the F-18. Considering that the FS2020 is not a hardcore simulator, I think there should be a few aircraft that can do it.
Su-57 maneuver in Top Gun
At least it is finally possible to have “Herbst” (autumn) in the sim thanks to these two available seasons packs 
Is the Top Gun movie good or avarage? With a VR headset and head-tracking it is possible to do fast and complicated maneuvers.
Without VR it is waaaay more difficult to fly.
[No spoilers] The movie was definitely more interesting having already played the Top Gun DLC challenges/missions in the sim. My dad, who never played the sim, said the movie was “just okay” until the last 20 or so minutes, which he liked better.
Yes these Tomcats were so much more awesome and pinnacle of technology during the Knight Rider times.
In 2022 when every cheap car has photorealistic satellite navigation and a talking board computer and at least four 10" screens in the interior a Tomcat is not that cool and fascinating anymore… That´s why a Top Gun remake has no longer the same effect it had 1986 when we were driving farm tractors and thought in the year 2000 we will live in space stations and on Mars…
By the way what exactly defines a Herbst maneuver? Isn´t the cobra maneuver much more effective?
According to a couple of ex-marine and navy pilots I follow on Youtube, the plot is daft and the aircraft scenes vary between “surprisingly realistic and truth to life” and “mind numbingly wrong” all jumbled together, and you cannot take the aircraft ops or the overall plot seriously.
However they said regardless of that it is well worth seeing because the movie is “full on unmitigated aircraft p*rn” from start to finish.
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I’m really confused, it’s called cobra maneuver, Herbst maneuver or j-turn. But there seem to be some variants.
Hm I thought the Herbst maneuver is to escape an enemy behind the aircraft. That´s why I thought the Cobra maneuver is much more effective because it leads to rapid braking of the hunted aircraft and the enemy can do nothing else but fly in front and will be directly inside the other pilot´s crosshair afterwards.
I think the point is to “escape”, to escape the missile. And it’s going to be amazing and cool to the audience.
Actually the point of either is to get the enemy off your 6, and wind up on his in the end. It works in the movie because the opponent was like wth was that, but if your up against a real opponent with some experience well they will have a counter to it. My counter is to roll 180 and then pull the nose up.
What could be in your way here is G-limiter and MSFS reduced maximum control surface deflection with speed. That’s why, when holding the stick full back in any default aircraft, the aircraft continues looping instead of entering an accelerated stall. Its a guess but this might be in the way here as well.
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