- A case big enough to fit it in.
I’m going to keep an eye on them but won’t be buying yet. If you look at Nvidia’s own benchmarks for MSFS, the 4090, 4080 16GB, and the pretend 4080 12GB all score virtually identically, showing that the CPU is the limiting factor. They only test them with DLSS3 so its fair to assume without DLSS 3 the cards will basically score the same as a 3090/3090 Ti due to the CPU bottleneck.
For me, flatscreen MSFS performance is already sorted. I play on a 70 inch 4K TV at 60 Hhz and can already get smooth 60 fps. Where I want better performance is with VR, but DLSS 3 doesn’t support VR.
Furthermore, the existing DLSS technologies that we got in SU10 for me aren’t good enough visually in VR so I’m still using TAA for now. There’s a blurryness to DLSS which for me isn’t worth the fps gain.
I’m more interested to see how the cards look in a few months time.
For your electricity bill, yes…
Because DLSS 2 isn’t the same as DLSS 3. The latter benefits you whether you are CPU or GPU bound (supposedly)
Ask EVGA? A company I’m loyal to. Team red next round for me most likely. Happy with my evga 3090, won’t be swapping this round. no need
Amazing performance, thanks for sharing.
Its very tempting, at least for next year. I may twitch the buy it now button, but. it depends on availability.
I can’t help but think, regardless of what anyone tells me, that we will have the same issues we had with the 3000 series. People will buy up all the stock then drop them on eBay for $1900+.
How are they going to stop that?
At one point I wanted a PS5, but after so much faff trying to buy one, I gave up. I only got lucky with my 3090 because I bought it in a bundle with water cooler and processor / mobo.
Great performance though, thanks for posting the video!
I don’t believe the 4090 will be that much of an improvement in MSFS.
The main problem with MSFS is CPU related. I changed from a 5950X to a 5800X3D and got immense additional performance. Also recently tested a 3080TI instead of my 3070, and there was a difference, but not as much as there should have been considering how much faster the 3080TI acutally is.
Since DX12 became viable I am GPU bound more often that CPU bound, though not by much. Where I now have a teetering seesaw, with the 1kg GPU compared to my 1.5kg CPU, throwing a 4090 in there might make that CPU a lot heavier…so to speak. I’ll probably end up upgrading the CPU this year, and perhaps the GPU next year.
I cannot wait to see what competition Nvidia has this time next year.
Some competitors are already making rumbles. Love it…
In the meantime, MSFS2020 keeps getting better and better…
I am not sure if this video is legit. The review embargo has not been lifted on these cards yet; and it won’t be lifted until October 12th. Only then will you see actual performance numbers.
That is really interesting to me as I’ve been looking at the benchmarking lately for my 5950X vs the 5800X3D, seems the 3D has some serious performance boost in certain games.
Currently running a water-cooled setup with the 5950X and a 3090.
The 5800X3D is optimised for gaming with triple L3 cache. And especially in MSFS the performance increase is very significant.
I don’t use DLSS - the native resolution looks much better - even at 5760x1080 and 125% scaling, the 3090 is still at 67-70%! but as I said, everyone as (s)he likes it and needs it - I’ll wait for the MSFS benchmarks and then decide!
You are right that in most scenarios the GPU isn’t the issue getting up to 60 FPS or more. I honestly don’t know why people need more than 60 FPS in a flight simulator, then again aside from competitive gaming, I don’t see why people ever need it. It’s obviously a personal thing.
I see two scenarios where the 4090 will benefit. High-end VR like the Varjo Aero and those who are okay with DLSS and want to max everything out (TLOD), including AI at a consistent 60+ FPS assuming DLSS 3.0 frame generation is solid.
If you are a 30 FPS guy or fine with a VRR monitor between 40-50 FPS, then I don’t see how the 4090 will be worth it at launch.
It’s funny because people were saying how the 3090 was the holy grail answer to MSFS performance problems 2 years ago and rushing out to buy theirs, only to be horribly disappointed that they were gaining next to nothing.
This may be a bit different now with DX12 making the GPU the limiting factor. But I’d honestly wait for some other poor sod to part with his hard earned money and confirm godly performance before upgrading.
Was literally typing this. No “valid” reviewer of the 4090 can post his/her findings until a day before it goes on sale… gotta love scheme-y Nvidia.
1,000,000% this!!!
Also, everyone said the same with the 3080. OMG, it’s going to make MSFS amazing.
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I’ve said it before. Since at least the 900 series when I’ve been paying closer attention to reviews (maybe even before that), no independent reviewer in the wild has ever been able to match the performance that nVidia tout in their pre-release benchmarks once they had the hardware in their possession. Not saying they got bad performance numbers by any means, but nVidia’s claims were always inflated by a fair margin.
I don’t wanna be that guy but my 3080 12GB OC Tuff has made the game amazing. Along side 5800x it’s running fantastic.