The overall MSFS playerbase consists of a huge variety of sim pilots with a large assortment of varying interests. There are simmers who enjoy everything from VFR sightseeing flights in GA prop planes to virtual air show performers flying military jets to airline pilots who enjoy short and long haul trips – and everything in between. While there are indeed some MSFS pilots who play as you describe, they represent only a very small minority of the total playerbase and are nowhere close to the 90% figure you cited.
For example, only 0.38% of the 15+ million MSFS players have earned the achievement “My Way” for completing a 300+ mile flight without assistance.
You probably have a hardware problem or limitation. The software is the same for everyone. It’s just bytes of data which is identical. If you have issues other’s don’t, it doesn’t mean you are somehow at fault, but it does mean it’s a “you” problem - not a sim problem.
That seems improbable based on the % positive ratings the game gets. Sure, there’s some. I guess if it depends on your definition of “tons” but it’s certainly not a majority, or anything more than a small minority.
Hardly. I run it with many programs, occasionally even other games, running at the same time. The sensitivity you’re seeing is probably a hardware issue. Not all hardware is perfect - in fact often it isn’t. It’s quite common to come across pieces of hardware that cause issues with certain software.
This is true, although it seems to be ultra rare. If you read the forum you’ll see there’s been a couple of times this cropped up. That’s why it’s important to install only a handful of things at a time to make sure everything works before adding more. For example if my FS started crashing now, I’d know it would be down to maybe 1 or 2 things. Trouble shooting issues can be frustrating, but it’s not hard. It’s just time consuming.
If you think you have an addon with a conflict, by all means list it and others can try to match what you have and see if the problem IS one of those addons, or if you can safely assume it’s somewhere else.
A reminder to keep this thread on track. If you want to continue participating, focus only on the discussion of improvements to flying fighter jets in MSFS, and not on side/off topic discussions or arguments.
I’ve had a very difficult time finding virtual air show content for example.
Videos of people doing acrobatics in jets and things like that, just quite rare.
There’s some YouTubers that do that, but from my experience it’s less than 1/10th of the content I will find.
Also not to confuse flying military jets with flying acrobatics in military jets.
More people will fly military jets, but doing actual precise maneuvers with them, is a less popular thing.
The vast majority of content out there is people doing long haul or mid range flights between 90-5000 miles and people doing shorter flights in cessnas and small propeller planes.
I mean I even came across a real fighter jet pilot once doing some ‘‘acrobatics’’ in a rafale in game, and after coming home from a real airshow with that very plane doing a display over my head, it was night and day difference in terms of what he was able to do in sim. Although it did shock me when the pilot himself seemed to say it was accurate to real life. I mean he certainly didn’t demonstrate it, that much can be said. The real display was immaculate, very precise, very agile and powerful, in the sim it was slow, wobbly, underpowered, and it seemed heavier than in real life (it couldn’t do nearly as tight of maneuvers or as fast rolls at all).
If anyone is interested in flying fast/fighter jets or even any warbirds (Fixed wing or helicopters) should look into DCS. The addons can be expensive as well as the maps expansion that you have to purchase but they are all totatly worth it. Every system is simulated including weapons.
DCS is available as free download for anyone who wants to try it out before buying anything. Free version includes Caucasus Map as well as two aircraft to learn.
MSFS in my opinion is not targeted towards military flying.
I reread the post. I personally don’t fly military aircraft in MSFS. If I wanted to do that I will hop in DCS where I have a ton of modules. I’m sure many avid flight simmers who play MSFS also play DCS. There are even aerobatic servers in DCS. I think the majority of people who wish to do aerobatics in MSFS are going to do it in something like an Extra or Pitts.
To be honest, Majority of players in MSFS either chooses to fly airliners from A to B or fly small pistons doing low level VFR flying. Very few people would fly Fast/fighter jets as primarily the sim is not targeted towards any military flying.
As I said there is already another sim specifically designed for that purpose (DCS).
On Wednesday night’s stream, I flew the F-111 low level through Utah and Arizona with an F-14 and an F-35 on my wing. I saw a flight of three or four F-18s running the Grand Canyon as I passed by. Some folks like to fly fast and low over beautiful geography that DCS doesn’t offer.
Yes there are some limitations in terms where you can fly from/to in DCS, but in MSFS we are not going to get any complex fighter jets as ones available in DCS.
The point was that there are plenty of people flying military aircraft in MSFS, which might run counter to your initial claim. They’re not employing weapons or necessarily even flying using military procedures, but they’re flying the planes because there’s a thrill involved in fast, low-level flying over rugged terrain where it exists anywhere in the world. That fulfills a different “mission” from DCS.
I acknowledge that DCS definitely offers accuracy and complexity (especially in regard to systems and weapons employment) that MSFS does not, but the notion that MSFS isn’t built for or attracts those that wish to fly those types of aircraft isn’t really true. That said, MSFS offerings in that arena still could certainly improve in some ways (without even getting into weapons).
A ton of people enjoy flying military aircraft in MSFS. I have DCS, but personally, I’d love to see highly detailed air bases and aircraft in MSFS 2024. I understand there won’t be any combat elements like bombing, and that’s fine… but building up this aspect would be fantastic! Simulated target practice in the desert outside of Nellis would be Amazing!
DCS is more of a combat simulator, and where it excels on flight models, it falls flat on the fact you don’t have a sandbox full planet rendering with nice clouds and weather you can go fly around in.
Real locations are rare and not that well made. It’s a free combat game from 2008, with updates, it’s not a solution
