AIG and FSLTL have their own issues as well especially with aircraft failing to land. However I prefer using AIG because at least aircraft do a better job of handling ground routes and takeoffs are ok. Others still prefer FSLTL. It’s all going to take some time to sort out.
I recall having similar issues with 2020 and that took time to get it all sorted out as well. Maybe with SU4 we will see improvements…hopefully.
Yes, followed the guide. BATC alters the sim’s core ATC logic so is able to manipulate aircraft behaviour. FST simply injects models.
I’m really keen to get BATC but am waiting for VFR support since I do a lot of GA flying. I’m totally unfamiliar with Navigraph, which I believe is required to run BATC? Will a free Navigraph account suffice, and how complicated is it to file a flightplan that will enable the traffic injection? I take it I can’t just file one using the world map?
SimBrief is the piece that is required for BATC currently, and that has a free component which is generally sufficient for most users, especially if flying offline. You may occasionally have variations of procedures which are outdated (SimBrief might assign GRNCH4 STAR but the current AIRAC has GRNCH5 for example) and in many cases the difference between those two procedures is insignificant, so it can be worked-around fairly easily.
Yes, it’s quite easy with Simbrief. As @Zadma said Simbrief is required, not Navigraph. But personally I can’t imagine to live without Navigraph subscription as I’m rather an airliner guy and fly only IFR. So Navigraph is recommended too.
Thanks guys. It’s the complexity of Simbrief that concerns me: I spend $30 on BATC… then can’t use it! 
How does SayIntentions compare? I really dislike subscriptions but if it’s easier/better…?
It really couldn’t be simpler - to generate a SimBrief flight plan, you need to provide:
It will generate everything else, and honestly most of what it generates is extra immersion information that most sim pilots can safely ignore.
Great, thanks. I’m just a bit of a computer dummy so what others find easy I tend to find taxing!
But that sounds easy, even for me!
You’ll love it, the flight planning has never been easier.
So it’s literally file a flightplan in Simbrief (free account), then hop in the cockpit and conduct a flight as normal? And I’ll see traffic behaving more-or-less as it should? Is it easy to get BATC to use FST’s models?
Sorry for the questions outside the BATC thread. Is it one purchase for both sims? And presumably I can use a keyboard, mouse or controller to interact with ATC, rather than my voice?
Just keep in mind the injected aircraft in BATC don’t use the jetways. That’s one of the reasons I didn’t purchase it and the fact it doesn’t yet include VFR.
Yes, one purchase for both sims. I was using it in MSFS2020, now in MSFS2024. I don’t use voice myself, I have it mostly on auto-reply and auto-tune as if I’m the pilot flying and my virtual co-pilot is the pilot monitoring. You can reply with a button too.
With Simbrief you can only enter your airline ICAO, flight number, origin and destination, aircraft type (eventually also no. of passengers and cargo) and it will find a flight route for you, optimal flight level etc. And then you fire up BATC and it automatically gets the data from Simbrief for your current flight and populates the origin and destination airports with AI traffic - parked, taxiing, taking off and landing (and a cruise traffic I guess 100 nm around you). It’s easy to use the models with BATC. You just install FS Traffic, FSLTL or AIG, or all of them and BATC finds the models it needs.
To be fair, even FST/FSLTL aircraft end up disconnecting from the jetways once they’ve been on stand a while. I can live without docking jetways. Do you not use SI or BATC, then? Presumably the jetway issue occurs in SI too?
Good to know there’s a degree of automation. Thanks. The less I have to do, the better!
No I don’t and I am not saying either one is bad. I only wanted to point it out so you wouldn’t be disappointed.
What I am hoping for is all of these AI Traffic issues to be fixed. Since I fly mostly VFR personally I could not live with Ai Traffic not using jetways. But that’s just me 
To be clear, BATC does nothing with the core ATC logic whatsoever. In fact, it’s best to disable the sim’s own ATC entirely. Don’t generate a plan, turn off the sim’s own ATC panel and voices, and critically, set the sim’s Airport and Air Traffic Quality settings both to OFF. BATC injects its own traffic models (using model files from FSTraffic, FSLTL, AIG or a mix of all three, in whichever priority you want). After injecting the models, BATC moves them itself frame by frame. This avoids the overall brain-dead nature of the core sim’s AI traffic entirely, but does require running BATC as a separate application on your PC, something not required for FSTraffic itself.
Now having said all that, BATC has it’s own busy thread, so maybe we can discuss it over there if people are having issues with it.
Anyone else noticing that you need to restart a flight in order to see any traffic? Also, arriving traffic tends not to land, instead flying the length of the runway then banking sharply away at low altitude?
Since FST in FS2020 was fine I’m assuming this is a 2024 limitation?
Hi, I have Beyond ATC and FS Traffic. When I enable AI Traffic in Beyond ATC, some aircraft overlap. If I disable it, only FS Traffic is used by default, but ATC doesn’t recognize any flights. I’d appreciate any suggestions.
Disable FStraffic only if you are running BATC.
thanks my friend