Just Flight Piper PA-28-161 Warrior II

Could someone kindly outline the GPS/AP functionality that comes with the Warrior?
ie, will it track the magenta line, (NAV), from a flight plan loaded in MSFS?
Also, can you set a VS or do you hand fly it to the cruising altitude you want then hit an ALT HOLD button?
Thanks
TG

Yes. Except in the the Warrior VS is set by using the trim wheel, and adjusting as required. :smiley:

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So far, I love it. Engine sounds are very good. Flight model seems about right, but haven’t spent a lot of time with it yet. This is the only plane I have for msfs that I actual flew irl, (got my ppl in a warrior, long time ago) so its quickly becoming my favorite in the sim, despite its slow speed.

Cant seem to get the stall warning sounds to come on. only for a split sec did I hear it. Anyone else have that issue?

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Stall warning consistent here. Loud and long. Several tries.

I have that issue with my warrior and the Saitek switch box.

This occurs a lot with addon aircraft and external devices. it is because the external switch sends a pulse not a continuous signal.

It can be fixed by modifying the starter stats in engine.cfg, basically give it more torque and have it last longer. Find a setting that starts the engine without it turning on like a ceiling fan. You will get a slightly less realistic start but your external switch will work.

These parameters are the ones to play with:

normalized_starter_torque=0.07
starter_time=1.5

A random quick flight in the new warrior:

Will this be a good addon for practice? We have the Warrior III at our University.

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I have not played with the AP fitted to the warrior yet but generally Just Flight aircraft will track the magenta Line if your source is GPS subject to a few Provisos:

  1. The state saving feature messes with the AP if you have the AP enabled when you log out of your previous flight. Always turn off the AP as part of your shutdown procedure
  2. If you are using a GPS like the gtn750 that can load flight plans there are sometimes (not always) AP issues you do not get on other aircraft. Probably state saving again ? No idea. The MSFS flight plans you load at start-up seem to be fine
  3. you do need to be roughly on the magenta line before enabling AP nav mode or weird things can happen.

As always:
unsupervised flight sim time while training = bad
flight sim time in this aircraft under the watchful eye of your instructor = useful

Your instructor will be aware what bad habits flight simmer can develop and watch for them if you let them know and may give you things to practice and things to avoid doing

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Sounds like exactly what they said.Thanks for the headsup.

I would change that to — unsupervised flight sim time while training = Be aware of the pitfalls.

As a student, you’ll immediately notice the differences if you have any sense about you. I used FS95 while I was training, and it was obvious where there were differences, but it was still useful. Granted, I’ve been into aviation my whole life, and am a mechanical engineer and a hockey player, so I’m mechanically adept and athletically inclined to be aware of my surroundings, but, I don’t think I’m special.

I totally agree that your instructor should be aware of your skills, but, you’re just as likely to develop bad habits simming or not. I don’t think there’s anything special there either. He doesn’t need to be looking over your shoulder every time you sim. It would help to tell him you’re using the sim.

Hopefully you’re able to fly for real at least twice a week in training.

So, yes, this is useful for practicing in. Especially your preflight, flight planning, cross-country flying and learning your surroundings, what it’s like to approach an airport, setting up the plane for proper speeds in the various phases.

One thing that is most important. It is SUPER easy to skip steps in the sim. That is one thing you ABSOLUTELY have to avoid! If you’re going to practice in the sim, do EVERY… SINGLE… step you would do in the real flying. Also, all the tasks you have to do in a flight are “easier” in the sim. When I was getting back in to flying 6 months ago after a 20 year layoff, the most important thing I had to relearn was not getting “behind” the aircraft. Talking to ATC as you’re setting up each phase, integrating into a pattern full of aircraft and being asked, for instance, to extend a leg and things like that, so, you’re not only managing your speed and altitude and direction, but being aware of other planes in the pattern and listening to ATC. That’s not the easiest thing to duplicate in the sim.

So do every step of every checklist you have. At least learn that.

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dont have altitude hold mode wright?

Just flew this aircraft TJVQ-TJSJ. Nothing short of amazing, as usual with these guys. REALLY enjoyed it from start to finish. Different enough from my Arrows to make it worth it! Highly recommended.

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It does have a clickspot for ALT HOLD if you so desire.

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where it is?

I do think that Just Flight has kind of… set the standard when it comes to GA in MSFS right now. I have yet to see anyone come close to the level of simulation they provide with GA. I certainly hope to see more from them and they have become that developer where I don’t have to wonder whether it will be quality or not.

Unfortunately, there are very few developers that come close to this.

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It’s the top right on the AP panel, just above the TEST button.

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thank you :grinning:

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What are the differences you notice from the non turbo Arrow 111?
TG

Well, its performance is different, it FEELS different to fly, it doesn’t have retractable gear, the engine start/runup in different, the autopilot is completely different and this one has an APR mode.

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So far I preferred the Arrow normalized over the turbo for its realistic flying qualities, the warrior will now join the III as my favorite GA, and by far!

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