Keyboard Not working as expected

Hi - newby here - managed to get hold of a Logitech yoke, all excited about learning this, downloaded the software, got it running and am running into problems that I just cannot figure out.

On the Cessna 152, lesson 3 - take off - my “Ctrl + Num Del” does not release the brake. (I can click on the lever with the mouse and this does release the brake ). When taxiing out the “Enter” key on the number pad works to steer the rudder, but the “Num 0” does not move the rudder it jumps the view on the screen from looking at the cockpit instruments to outside of the plane to the rear.

The only way to just overcome this is to inch out onto the runway really really slowly, use the yolk and the enter key to turn the plane sort of pointing down the runway, then quickly use the mouse to apply the footbrake (as the other brake controls dont work either).

I am using the default keyboard settings, and I have a regular logitech (wired) keyboard. I have also tried another keyboard (same result). I have also uninstalled and re-installed the software - same result.

Total loss how to fix this - hoping someone else has some ideas - otherwise will be asking Microsoft for a refund
Thanks
Phil

Good evening @PhilDaBrit. you would have to remap the keys/functions on your keyboard and yoke to match your preferences.

I don’t think you have to uninstalled and re-installed the software for this. Spend a little time poking around the Keyboard, Mouse and Yoke configuration.

Have fun

Hi @camechi thank you for replying. I am not sure I follow - if the Sim default keyboard configuration is being used, and the Sim is saying to use “Ctrl + Num Del” to release the brake, but its just not working properly, why I would need to remap the keys / functions? (Unless there is a conflict with the yolk ?) Perhaps I should try disconnecting the yolk to see if that helps pinpoint the issue?)

Thanks again for taking the time to help me out - much appreciated

Phil

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So I just tried unplugging the Yolk and tried to fly the plane (Cessna training class 3 taking off) and the keys are just not working per the default settings. The throttle didn’t respond, the “Ctrl Num Del” didn’t release the brake - so I really think I have a problem with the way the keyboard is responding etc. Are there other settings in Windows? Does they keyboard have to be a specific type? or the app somewhere to map the keyboard - I really am at a total loss here
Thanks again
Phil

No specific type needed.
Play around in the sim settings under “options”, there you will see “controls”.
In there you will see the control settings available for your devices.
If you want to see all of the controls, make sure you set the filter to “all”,
it is on “assigned” by default.

@TheSevenflyer thanks - It was set on assigned, but is set to all now - but its not made any difference.

So with the Yolk still unplugged, and starting off Training number 3

The instructor says to check the runway is clear - so I press and hold letter S. The reacts correctly - the view looks left and they confirm it is clear. All good.

Next is to turn off the parking brake - supposedly Ctrl+Num Del - this does not respond. But I am able to manually release the parking brake via the mouse

As the plane moves forward, I can control the rudder and turn right with the enter key but not left. I then cannot control the brakes either, unless I apply using the mouse.

Assuming I can get the plane somewhere on the runway and apply the brake (via the mouse) then F4 for full power does not respond but F3 to increase throttle does.

Am at a total loss here and appreciating the feedback

Phil

The Num Lock light must be ON for the parking brake sequence to work.

Be sure to turn the light back OFF after releasing/setting the parking brake or other num pad sequences will not work.

For the rudder /view conflict, search the Controls screen for duplicated key-sequences.

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@SlowPokeFlyer again my thanks for trying to help

Ive tried the num lock light on for the parking brake release but it makes no difference

I will go through the controls later on looking for a conflict - but I am struggling to see how that could be possible given this is a completely clean install - the only change I have made is setting the filter from ALL to ASSIGNED

Really frustrating! But many thanks to everyone

Phil

“Yoke”… it’s not an egg

ASSIGNED will only show the keys/controls that have some function assigned to them.

ESSENTIAL means the flight functions deemed necessary by ASOBO (often optional)

ALL presents all of the above including assignments and blank spaces where no keys/controls are currently set.

All three of these only affect what is presented to you for keyboard, mouse and all other devices you’ve attached. Conflicts can occur between any where.

So just selecting ALL, ESSENTIAL or ASSIGNED doesn’t effect control settings at all - only what’s presented to you. They’re primarily a convenience to isolate something of interest.

For example, key in “rudder” in the top left text field (from my memory), and select ASSIGNED as the filter. Now look at the keyboard, mouse and each control device in turn looking for duplicates.

Hope this clarifies it a bit.

@TheKCPilot Typo obviously but amusing

Thanks @slowpokeFlyer - it does help clarify but I dont think it fixes the problem but I will go though this evening and double check … But thanks again for taking the time
Phil

Phil I suggest you practice using the keyboard more, to become fully confident with it.

Try all the Scroll Lock, Num Lock, Ctrl+Shift+Alt combinations typing into Notepad until you feel confident.

Btw Flying with a keyboard is a nightmare. Use the yoke or joystick - along with a dial or lever for throttle that will improve the experience considerably.

@TaurineCorn668 Thanks for your reply and I totally agree on the practice part - I am really excited about learning how to fly and progress, but unfortunately I think I have exhausted all key combinations, and even uninstalled and re-installed in case I’d upset something - so I am really using an out of the box system - and the keys are just not doing what they are supposed to - so I cannot apply the brakes - which you cannot do on the yoke, nor can I steer the rudder - so its really unusable for me right now. I did report this problem - not sure what the response time on them getting back may be. I’m so disappointed this is just not functioning.
Thanks once again for your reply
Phil

Ok, there’s a screw up somewhere.
According to the controls screen we mentioned above, Brakes are num delete, not ctrl num delete.
To turn left is Num 0
That’s probably why they wouldn’t work.
Look around in that screen and find out what your controls actually are.

Hi @TheSevenflyer thanks again for taking the time to reply

The parking brake is Ctrl Num Delete - this is what I am trying to release - neither that nor the Num delete for the “regular”? brakes work.
Yes - the turn left is Num 0 - that is not working but the Enter to turn right does work

Thanks once again for reading and trying to help - that is really appreciated - not sure if I will ever hear back from their support team at all

Frustrated but much appreciating peoples efforts to assist

Phil

Ok .
Let’s eliminate another issue. In the game,
Select options, controls, and then highlight “keyboard”
You will now see Search on the left side.
Click on Select an Input
From the drop down menu, select num 0
Now in the center of the screen are all controls bound to that key.
What you need to do is to delete all there, except “rudder left yaw left”
Don’t worry , you can restore defaults at any time.
To do this, click on the line you want to delete, right on the Num0 indication.
A selection box will come up, select “clear current input”
Then “validate”.
Do the same for your brake command.

Save before you exit, and give it a try.

@TheSevenflyer again my thanks for persevering with trying to assist - I really do appreciate your help

I followed through on your suggestions, and I did find a conflict on the Rudder Left “Num 0” - so I removed it from the conflict (“Slew Pitch Down”).
I then went into tutorial #4 again but it has not made any difference - I can use the Enter for Rudder right but not the Num 0 for Rudder Left. I also did the same process for the brakes - there were no conflicts and that is still not working.
Thanks once again for your idea - I was really hopeful when I found that conflict initially!

Phil

I wonder if it is the tutorial.
Does this occur during a non-tutorial flight?

@TheSevenflyer - good thought - I’ll try something else this evening

Again I really appreciate you continuing to try to help resolve this

Phil

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