Lionheart Creations - Trinidad TB-21 Released

good catch.

My habit is to start on the left tank and switch to the right tank during the runup.

BTW: the Red knob lower left … is not to open the baggage compartment… It is the emergency landing gear release.

just downloaded all the recommendation mention all over for updatind
Now th sim crashes bevor even loading.
Big job to find uninstall all of them

Another question, could anyone actually fly to 25,000 feet?and keep the cruise speed 190 kTAS?(given by the manual)
I can merely climb to 14000 feet…

Yeah Bill stated this was an inop switch before he fixed the opening doors and since then has “repurposed” that for opening the cargo area. It was Inop before.

KSBA → KLAS FYI: Winds were as predicted, was seeing 215+ Kn groundspeed.

Left the fuel selector as startup. Feeds gas from both. Once select a fuel feed, right/left, it operates correctly. No way to go back to ‘both’ that I know of. (Maybe a keyboard setting?) It acts like it has a C172 selector base.

So, Bill just posted on their FB and he blames Asobo code for this and says it’s a “sim default”, but if we want “authenticity”, to cycle the tanks and then it will use the proper one.

I am starting to get the feeling that he isn’t trying to maliciously lie, but just doesn’t have MSFS figured out. Carenado Mooney doesn’t require this and works just fine. But I am tired of him blaming his own lack of knowledge on Asobo.

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2nd KSBA FIM PMD HEC BLD KLAS Filed IFR @ FL20

ATC cleared Kwang5.Hener departure to 11,000 so minor delay while ATC approved higher.
Reached FL20 at PMD, then requested FL23. Near HEC VOR the plane stalled out at 22,800 ft
Was climbing at 100 ft/min, waiting on the stall. Yes, it was climbing terrible above 20,000 ft. I do not fly a TC version, so have to ask someone who does for actual feel in those flight levels. After the recovery, requested 15,000 feet, and continued to Las Vegas. Got a ILS RWY 26L Pinot transition.

Out of KSBA on RWY 7/26 you can get 1,200 to 1,500 ft/min fairly easily in the non TC version.

I screwed up, forgetting the ‘second flight rule’ real life weather screws up. The KIAS was near 60. Not certain of the KTAS nor winds aloft, etc. (I used STD data). Note: Instead of a 14 volt gauge on a 28 volt aircraft (far right panel), how about an Outside Air Temp (O.A.T Gauge)? Most TB series seem to have one in that location. The 28 volt gauge is top far right center panel.

When I take a picture.. I am getting a too big error when trying to post. I am guessing the multiple monitor images are too much and I need to shrink to a single monitor for a picture.

Working Hour meter would be nice, too. Mine is stuck at 0.00.

Also, after landing.. (short or long, I do not know?) the aircraft gets really 'squirrely". Sorry for the technical terms. Is this tied into the recent flaps issue, controller, rudder…? I have not tried it across other A/C. Just throwing it out there.

If Bill will keep updating, I have no issues. I would like to get this to study level.

After a new flight test, the plane did manage to reach 25,000 feet, thanks!
And by changing some value of cfg file,the tank selection is not a problem.

So, basically tank selection works as long as you touch that selector. You can put it right back on left and it will work fine…

I gotta say, I am rather enjoying this aircraft quite a bit now.

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Yep,I’ve also spent a lot of time flying with it.

I like the Trinidad, but after reading this thread I decided to wait a bit longer before buying.

To Lionheart’s credit, they do provide a Pilot’s Owners Manual free to download on their website.

I recently bought it and really like it. I fly only in VR and with a lowly 1660 super it runs ok in VR, so the frame rate of it is ok. The devs keep doing regular updates and after WU3 released an update including a temp fix for the extra lift on landings that WU3 introduced. I find the cockpit and visuals really good and for £15 highly recommend it. Would certainly buy Lionheart Creations planes again.

Having a problem with the autopilot.

Switch it on it goes into ‘roll mode’ which is normal, then it shuts off.

I haven’t seen many topics about this plane so I want to add that this is currently my favorite GA prop plane in the game. Everything works well, the quality is good, and the plane itself is extremely unique, especially that rockin’ 80s interior. If the designers of the old Pontiac Fiero made an airplane…this would be what they came up with.

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I find the gns530 doesn’t work on this plane anymore (black screen). I’m using the latest gns530 mod and it’s working fine on other aircraft.

yeah.. I found I have to quit and restart 4 or 5 times to get a good start. Then it is a good flight, unless the sim does something stupid… ATC wanting me to climb to FL25, for example.

I get the Garmin issues on other 3rd party aircraft.. Mooney. That usually works out with a restart, also.

You must be extremely patience IRL.

3.6 of the Trinidad has been released.
I only have black GPS screens. :thinking:

You have to restart, eventually the GPS will switch on.

I made a mod to fix some of the issues that were annoying me with this plane.
https://flightsim.to/file/11511/moulinsart-trinidad-tb-21-gt-plus-requires-the-lhc-trinidad-tb-21-gt

The Trinidad TB-21 GT for Microsoft Flight Simulator is a nice plane with many qualities … and many issues, the main one being that it’s really a TB-20 (no turbo-compressor), with the manifold pressure never exceeding the outside air pressure.

  • The plane is now a TB-21, with a Lycoming TIO-540-AB1AD turbo engine. The max manifold pressure has been set to 32.5 inHg from sea level to 17 000 ft, as described in the PIM for ISA conditions. It will then decrease linearly down to 27.4 inHg at the service ceiling of 25 000 ft. The performance has been tuned to be very close to the official numbers, especially in terms of cruising speeds.

  • New custom-made manifold pressure / fuel flow gauge (DO NOT REDISTRIBUTE WITHOUT PERMISSION) based on a real gauge.

  • New custom-made CHT / TIT gauge (DO NOT REDISTRIBUTE WITHOUT PERMISSION) based on a real gauge. A turbo engine is leaned by using the Turbine Inlet Temperature (TIT) as reference, not the exhaust gas temperature (EGT).
    TIT is quick to react to mixture changes (unlike CHT), but will lag a couple of seconds behind EGT.
    A too high TIT can damage the turbo, do not exceed 1650°F.
    This gauge has been swapped with another one to make it bigger and closer to the pilot, it makes setting a functional custom view easier; see tb21-1.jpg for an example of my flying “position”.

  • The rudder trim wheel between the seats is now active: the “take-off” position will keep the plane from pulling left when full power is applied on the runway. It can also be useful for cross-wind landings, to counter the crosswind effect on the tail of the plane.

  • Fixed the “Weight & Balance” page where the plane’s center of gravity was in the red with the default 50% fuel load.

  • Wing bump map fixed (all liveries) to smooth exaggerated wrinkles on the wings.

  • Wing textures corrected (only for 4X-JES and D_HAUN liveries so far) to remove the rivets that were not aligned with the bump map. The bump map is a much better way to show rivets than the texture.

  • Yokes color corrected to better match the cockpit, for all planes with a dark grey interior, plus 4X-JES (blue interior), and D_HAUN (beige interior). If you know what you’re doing, you can easily copy the yoke textures for other planes.
    In addition to D-HAUN, the beige interior planes are G-RRFD, N72TX, VH-AXY, I-TALY, N993J.
    In addition to 4X-JES, the other blue interior plane is G-CANA.

  • The fuel tank selector has a bug: when entering the plane, it shows “left tank” and yet pulls fuel from both tanks, which is not possible in a real TB-21. As soon as you touch it, it will then work Ok for the rest of the flight, pulling from the single selected tank.
    Bad news: I could not fix this behaviour. However: now when you enter the plane the selector will show “off”; that’s a visual trick only, if you don’t touch it, it will still pull from both tanks. But now when you do your engine-starting routine, you will have a visual reminder to turn it to “left” or “right”.

  • Canopy transparency corrected for “clean” liveries (too dark by default).

  • Dirty canopy transparency corrected for 4X-JES and D_HAUN liveries (too dirty by default). If you want to port the Plexi texture to other planes, the other “dirty canopies” are N7248J, G-CBHA, VH-ARC and 334. VH-BXE has his own outrageaously dirty set of textures, very nicely done.

  • As we all fly from the left seat, two instruments were removed from the copilot panel to slightly improve fps; one replaced with a Hobbs meter, the other with a EADS/Socata logo from the time the TB-21 GT were made.

Have fun,
Haddock

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