Or a switch to use either/or - whichever is easier.
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I canāt either do anything about it only to deffend the system i liked so much. It needed improvements but nothing this big of a change like after su7. Iām sure we could use it to fly with VATSIM. I think the big issue with VATSIM was that this sim simulates pressure more realistic and made the altitude differ from what we could see outside of the sim. I think itās realistic if the weather isnāt always as expected. Thats how the real weather works. Thats why we need observations of the weather IRL. I think we need to think outside of the box with meteoblue weather. Maybe have an own platform to only controlling those who are using MSFS and maybe those other sims that may use the same system in the future. If METAR always match in the sim then the unpredicted things about weather gets lost.
I think itās many things that VATSIM could change to make it more realistic if the other sims was more realistic. But they are not because they are older. I think itās bad to change MSFS to be less realistic because those older sims are less realistic. Weather is a global thing that happening because of high and low pressures. That is calculated globally with meteoblue and itās hard to make that calculations fit with METAR. If meteoblue calculated low clouds moving toward the airport and METAR says clear sky the sim needs to remove those low clouds to match METAR at the spot we start the flight. Not a good fist impression of the weather being remove around us because METAR says so.That is only one example of the problems with it. Itās billions of other combinations that can occure. Weather is a real complex thing. Before this update it was looking like a complex thing and now it looks very generic as those other sims did.
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Open up the weather API, and let VASTIM, 3rd part devs, and even the community (Github) come up with the solutions that neither Asobo or MetroBlue are equipped or funded to design & implement.
Yes, maybe that would be the best fix. Because then we who want to use only meteoblue can use that. Then the rest can use those METAR-based weather addonsif they like to. Now we have no options at all. Everybody is forced to use METAR-weather.
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Not sure how easy that would be, as the MetroBlue and metar are are probably combined on the MS serversā they might need to have two different weather stream, one with metars & one without -0- getting complex, involved, and more costly ..
Most of is have no idea, as we do not get any detailed technical info, so we must just hope that MS/Asobo looks after us ā¦ How nice a Fuzzy feeling is that !!!
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But they had without before. Why canāt they have without and those 3rd party addons add METAR weather if they want to make it in the sim when the system is open? Itās hard enought to manage one system i would say.
I donāt want more options, I want the most realistic experience. When I select live weather, the weather should be as true to live as possible. Asoboās solution to everything is to add an option or slider for everything. For the most realistic experience a mix of Meteoblue and METARs need to be used, maybe just using the METAR to locally fine tune the ceiling and visibility. At the very least temperature, dewpoint and QNH need to come directly from the METAR.
Or why not just get on and fly and enjoy the flying experience. If youāre on a short haul on a busy day on VATSIM you donāt (or shouldnāt) have time to look at how pretty the clouds look.
I know Iāll get slammed for my reply, but to be honest I enjoy the flying experience from planning to flying to making a safe landing. And yes I look at the external view and sometimes I think wow what great job theyāve done with this SIM (most of the time).
Iām sure the work will be done to make the SIM as immersive for everyone, but as the old saying goes " you canāt make all of the people happy all of the time"
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But i think forecasts is calculated to be as true and live as possible. But sometimes they not match the reality. Then we want METAR to change that calculations locally? Is that true to live weather?
Agree, but when things changes to what i feel is much worse than we had before i start to not enjoying it anymore, I think the same was happening for those at release expecting the forecasts to match METAR all the time. Thats why they complained here when i was enjoying the sim back then. Now those maybe are happy who wanted this change but instead iām dissapointed they forced this thing on us who didnāt want it.
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But what is possible???
For many including myself, the depiction of accurate and dynamic live weather is what creates that enjoyable flying experience. Since SU7 it has so many bugs and issues with the weather that the experience has been ruined. There are people out there that donāt care about it or just choose to ignore it or do something else within MSFS for the time being, which is fair enough.
I think until they fix it though there should be the option to revert back to the previous way of doing weather until they establish if they can get METAR cloud data integrated without all the issues we see now.
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The METAR always matches reality (its an observation), its just not updated continuously. In Europe every 30 min OR in case if significant changes. A METAR is not always just an observation, a METAR could contain a TREND which is a 2 hr forecast. Its accurate enough for real world planning, so its accurate enough for a simulator. Eventually neither the METAR not Meteoblue will exactly give you the actual real world weather.
In any case Meteoblue does not have the resolution required to simulate local weather phenomenon, for example an aerodrome elevation slightly below the surrounding terrain causing fog, etc. METAR has its limitations of course:
- When visibility is above 10 km, the exact visibility canāt be taken from the METAR.
- Clouds above 5000 ft or highest MSA, or clouds tops when above this altitude.
- TEMPOs relating to storms for example, you donāt know exactly when and where this phenomenon occurs within the mentioned period.
- Type of clouds (if other than TCU or CB).
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I agree, But those two can differ to much. I would say itās better to only use one of those at the same time not mix them together. We had that option before this. We had 3rd party addons that did this already before su7. Now we have no options than have only METAR with 3rd party addons or mixed after su7
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Thank you for your insight. I guess that those who enjoying the flying experience that MSFS brings will continue to do so.
Those that wish to enjoy a real time weather simulator will have to wait that bit longer.
In any case enjoy what you have now and have a very pleasant evening.
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Yes, hopefully in the next SU8 in February we will see some improvements with the Live Weather.
Thank you, same to you. 
Exactly how often are those Meteoblue files updated? I think METAR is more accurate locally than Meteoblue.
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Every hour now after the update to su7.
METARs in Europe are updated every 30 minutes + Meteoblue doesnāt have the resolution to simulate weather very locally.
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I know that but i can enjoy the sim with that resolution. I donāt find the weather more accurate now than before. I feel itās more inaccurate now than before.