Local Legend 21: Eurocopter EC135

It could be they tested a different flight model that somehow was replaced last minute with a placeholder 407 flight model due to some bug or due to another new flight model related feature that’s not yet ready. Only internal team members will know.

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This helicopter is in cooperation with airbus and ADAC ?? For real ? I doubt any ADAC helicopter pilot can/have fly that ■■■■. If this is a “make good airplane”, I demand a “make-make good airplane” for this ridiculous attempt.

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True, and somehow he did not look very comfortable talking about the sim-rendition… It just makes me feel disappointed again. Another chance to deliver a finished and polished product just flying by… What a shame.

BTW: did someone discover the new rescue mission shown in the trailer in the acutal sim??

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First, i dont want to be ungrateful but this freeware helo is really a joke, especially in the flight model departement. Please bring out a patch as soon as possible because in its current state its even worser than any MSSCENERY product.

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I hope that they will make a Patch. What do you think

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They won’t they’ll defend the product for months first

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Neither the physical model, nor the flight model are anywhere near being good (or acceptable, imho)

And then there are all the small things like position lights, where in real life strobes are, the tail number on the boom and not under the main rotor, the sound is more like a two bladed rotor system (and really not EC135 like), the blades are not coning, the rotor head is wobbling up and down (wtf!)

It’s really low quality right now.

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Engines are fed by the supply tanks in the real thing. The problem is, the pumps in the addon don´t work. Each pump should transfer fuel from the main into on eof the supply tanks.

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I don’t understand your choice. This helicopter is one of the best in the world with its Helionix avionics suite and you choose avionics from 1994… the EMS Cabin is poor in detail, the search and rescue version does not have a winch or a float system or a search light… I’m not talking about the flight model which is absolutely bad, This is a very poor copy of this magnificent helicopter spoiled by your choices and a very big disappointment for lovers of rotary-wing aircraft. The free model from HYPE group far exceeds what you offered us. Finally, I very much doubt that ADAC participated in this project, no pilot from them would use the EC 135 that you offered to the MSFS community. Frankly, very disappointed with your choices and the respect you have for this community.

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No it’s not. It is very bad (particularly the flight model), but not close to mscenery bad.

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I fly on Xbox with a full HOTAS setup in my home theater, and I don’t agree that it’s that bad. The anti-torque pedals are very sensitive during pickup, but not too far off from the H125. It took me a while to get used to it, but I think it performs okay now. Sure, they could tweak it to make it less sensitive, but I don’t know how the real helicopter behaves.

Some people wrote that the sound is very bad and just a port from the H125. I really don’t agree with that at all. The sound is fine, but it doesn’t sound like the H125. On my surround setup it’s acceptable. The only thing I really notice is that it sometimes sounds like the doors are sliding open and closed while flying. In free flight, especially when hovering, it really stands out — a very distinct sound in the rear speakers when it happens.

I think it flies as expected. I don’t know if it has some kind of SAS, but it feels a bit muted and heavy in turns, and you can sense the helicopter’s weight. The collective has a bit of delay, though I don’t know if that’s realistic. You definitely have to plan ahead a little more than I’m used to.

So far, I only have about an hour in it. I really hope the developers read feedback and update it! Since HPG doesn’t seem interested in releasing an Xbox or native 2024 version, this one is very welcome to me. I haven’t dug into the systems yet, but I hope it includes some kind of hover autopilot like the H145 has.

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Because of the cooperation with ADAC I assume they modelled a version they operate. According to Wikipedia ADAC currently operates only one EC135 with a winch. So they probably went for the more common version. Not to say it wouldn’t be nice to have one. Especially because choice for that is really limited right now.

Also I don’t think ADAC hast a float system because they don’t operate on sea

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Well it is arguable if ADAC does SAR at all…it is a typical HEMS business, what means to transport the doc to the accident as quick as possible for the most of the time.

-Disregard-

I fly the 135 T1 irl and i can assure you that no Pilot has tested this.

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The sounds are horrible, the flight dynamics horrible, main rotor tilt downwards.. and no attachments to like mirrors, bear paws, winch, flir, search light etc. Thanks, i pass this one. Hope HPG brings a decent ec135/h135.

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There are multiple video proofs that show, that the flight model is “bugged”. Left cyclic alone should not introduce that high amount of right yaw. You can spin 360° on the ground with just left cyclic. That is just plain wrong and makes it harder then it should be, to control the heli. Might not be the case for you on XBOX but it is on PC.

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This could be how they simulate gyroscopic precession, so not necessarily a bad thing. Left resulting in left + forward (and vice versa) is correct behavior depending on rotor direction of rotation, at least to my knowledge.

This doesn’t explain the strong yawing response and oversensitive anti-torque. I do agree the flightmodel is awful, wonder if there are any real world H135 flyers out here that could shine some light on this.

ATR was supposedly involved in development of the expert series ATR which is not at all reflected in the eventual product. So I would take any kind of cooperation with ADAC or pilots with a grain of salt.

Also a slightly more modern version would be nice, doesn’t have to be the full glass cockpit, but ADAC for sure doesn’t operate this one anymore. Winch and all would be nice so this can be used in career mode.

Hope they will fix this, I was pleasantly surprised when I saw this in my aircraft list yesterday. Then got disappointed when trying it out.

The previous “make good” plane (Piper) still crashes when exceeding Vno and I think overall very little LL and FFs received updates after release so I’m hoping it isn’t abandonware, but not hopeful.

Does the Hype H135 work for FS2024?

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See comment 3 posts above yours :slight_smile:

Thanks, saw it, confirms everyone’s beliefs :sweat_smile:.