Mandatory updates!

Sorry, but this statement is totally hyperbole. I had a perfect ILS approach yesterday on Zurich Kloten (Switzerland), runway 28, with the latest FS 2020 update, in the stock A320neo.

Conveniently leaving out the world ‘simulator’ which puts the whole thing in context. But thanks for playing. Have a good weekend.

Jup, I went through the long list I’ve reported via Zendesk yesterday and not a single thing got fixed since release.The only thing changed has been the graphics going back and forward with the night lighting…

I doubt most bug reports are concerning aircraft and technical matters though, if I look in the top bugs and wishlists it is primarily eye-candy.

I have added annoying bugs which are in there from the start, and those things just don’t get any votes.

To give an example the lateral flight director mode keeps commanding wings level when flying with autopilot OFF on every MSFS aircraft no matter the active lateral mode.

RMIs / bearing pointers giving bearings towards localiser antennas which is impossible in real life. Those kind of things apparently go completely unnoticed…

Oh come on now and calm down a bit - you are using semantics now. My reply was intentionally tongue in cheek and broad. Why not reposond to the rest of my reply instead of the word ‘comment’ alone? No need to be defensive - just debate your case or be a good guy and concede (not to me but to Rev20105189…)

You are absolutely right you did not say customers should not be able to comment and you have my most sincere apologies for my dire misinterpretation of the obvious meaning.

A quite fair interpretation of your ‘comical’ comment is that I as a member of the ‘bunch’ (bit offensive, you don’t know me or my capabilities). I get your point but the language you use is a tad elitist don’t you think, get folks backs up?

bunch of unlicensed and unrated amateurs

So answer me this clearly if you will, do you maintain it is ‘comical’ when a user of a title feels the need to report what he/she considers to be a bug using the facilities provided for this purpose by the developers of said title?

Purely out of interest, are you a rated and currently licensed pilot yourself?

Not a pilot in real life, nor do I masquerade as one online. I’m just another armchair pilot wanting Asobo to solve these problems as efficiently as possible.

Step 1: Hire in house pilots to solve all the avionics problem quicker. Once solved…

Step 2: Re-engage the community for any all other fixes such as feature requests, graphics, navigation data, etc.

I can’t put it any simpler than that. My apologies if I wasn’t clear enough in my initial post.

To keep this post relevant with the OP, I believe this would greatly help with patch stability and the mandatory updates.

Thanks for answering that, it adds context to your comments and tells me you are not one of those elites who think the sim is for them alone. Good on you!

I Agree with you but would maybe widen the net beyond pilots. Imagine if they had a partnership or input from Garmin or Bendix King etc. A few good aero engineers would be great, I guess :wink:

I think this thread tells us how invested people are in this beast and how different our ‘wants’ are.

Lunho9214, it’s been nice locking horns with you but I think we are all saying the same thing in different ways. Blue Skies to you :wink:

I am sick and tired of having to uninstall Flight Simulator entirely for each “Mandatory Update”. Every time there’s a Mandatory Update, it alerts me in MSFS and kicks me back to the MS Store, but no updates are available. I have tried resetting the app (via Reset in Apps Manager) and simply waiting for an update to appear. When nothing happens and I’m stuck with not playing MSFS, I must do this.

The latest version I was on until this morning was 1.19.8.0. After I uninstalled and reinstalled everything (minus the “Standard Content - Mandatory Update” (that I deleted when I uninstalled everything)), the update version incrememted to 1.19.9.0. It’s really a shame that MSFS does not play well with the MS Store to apply updates in a smooth transparent fashion to the end user.

Please do something about this.

Download and install xbox app https://www.xbox.com/en-US/apps/xbox-app-for-windows-10 Restart PC Launch xbox app and sign in. Recheck for updates in microsoft store app

OK, yesterday msfs was working just fine. I go to start it up today and I’m hit with a manadatory update notice. It informs me that I don’t have enough space on my C: drive. I know it installs stuff to app data so and so, therefore I’m not too worried that the sim is installed on my D: drive and always has been.

For a mandatory update there was plenty of space on the C: drive. Just to make sure I freed up another 30Gb and tried again. Same message, “not enough space”.

Then I tried re-booting my system and this time I got the message that it could not connect to the server and that it had signed me out of xbox app. I checked xbox and I was actually signed in.

I then signed out of both xbox app and microsoft store, re-booted my machine and signed back in to the store and xbox, (that usually fixes the “Press any button” loop that happened throughout this mess at some stage too) and tried starting the sim again.

It gets past the Asobo logo and then we get the rotating doughnut on the 40th anniversary screen for an amount of time that could only be measured in geological terms. After my beard had grown another three ft, I was taken to some narration about screen settings (which hadn’t changed since I last started the sim.)

I quit out of that to be presented with the now familiar “You do not have enough space on this disk” message. How big is this latest "£$%^&*^ mandatory update?

I admit I only have 47Gb free on my C: drive but is the update larger than that?

I forget what the ratio is, but seems to me it could be double the amount due to the space required to download and install it.

That wouldn’t surprise me. Looks like a bigger hard drive is looming. Then get the cloning software out. Should be the quickest solution.

Ok I’ve had mandatory updates before with no issue on far less disc space on C: drive. I’ve just cleared 95Gb of free space on C: and it still shows up as ‘not enough disc space’. I give up. It’s ridiculous!

I can’t sensibly go for a bigger hard drive either.The price of a decent sized SSD now would go a long way to a new machine capable of taking much cheaper M.2 drives. Guess I’m stuffed for a while.

Have you got room on your D drive that you could temporarily move some stuff there, and move it back when the update is done?

@VictorVector170
Hi, quick question - what build are you running - the release build (v1.36.2.0), or the SU15 beta build (v1.37.12.0)? I’m just trying to figure out what is the sim is trying to update, as, AFAIK, there have been no changes to v1.36.2.0, and the last drop for the SU15 beta build was on April 5th, before you started having this issue.

This suggests that something is missing / has been deleted / has become corrupted in either the core content folder or your \Packages\Official\OneStore folder, & the sim is trying to repair the folder(s).

Can you double check that the InstalledPackagesPath in your UserCfg.opt file is pointing to the Packages folder on your D: drive?

I only have about 150 gig left on my D drive. I’ve already tried to clone that drive so i could resize my C drive so it would be more than ample to take any update. After cloning I was going to wipe the D drive so I’d have enough space to resize my C Drive. They’re on the same physical disk.

However, I when the cloning starts The BSOD that results is stop code: ‘Critical Process Died’. My response was “well no sh1t Sherlock!” after the umpteenth time of trying. I’ve also tried the usual disk diagnostics (no issues), chkdsk, sfc scannow etc. to no avail.

Incidentally I’d previously done a windows repair install which went successfully and did repair a couple of unrelated issues I was having previously. MSFS 2020 ran fine after the windows repair install too.

@ SmotheryVase665 I’m running v1.36.2.0 and I just tried to fire it up again and now I have this:

I will check my user cfg file as you suggest but nothing has changed (or should have) since the last time it ran perfectly i.e. a couple of nights ago.

@SmotheryVase665
Ok, I now have my windows issues finally resolved and all is tested and running perfectly. I have also got MSFS 2020 running (you hit the nail on the head). However, on startup it did not appear to check for updates as it usually does. I suspect I haven’t got the path quite as you intended. Would you mind taking this to Personal Messages, otherwise this thread could get over long. We’re almost there :slightly_smiling_face: