March 14th 2025 Developer Livestream - Discussion
Please use this topic to discuss the March 14th 2025 Developer Livestream.
Here is a timeline of the main topics discussed, now available on YouTube, here: March 2025 Developer Stream
The times below were for the original Twitch stream (now expired). For the YouTube stream, you need to subtract ~ 4:30 minutes from the Elapsed Time Shown.
Times are approximate, so you may need to scroll a bit (before or after) to get to the right spot.
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Discussion
04:29
Introductions: Jorg Neumann (Head of Microsoft Flight Simulator), Sebastian Wloch (Asobo CEO), Martial Bossard (Executive Producer), Jayne (Community Manager & host).
Will the 2024 marketplace updates still be on Mondays and Thursdays?
18:05
Is the Embraer Praetor 600 one of the free make-good aircraft for 2024?
18:47
Do you plan to create basic SDK video tutorials
20:18
When will the SU2 beta start?
21:23
Can you provide an update regarding efforts to streamline or modify the controller settings menu?
23:07
Will AMD FSR4 be incorporated in 2024 or 2020?
23:51
Why were Flora, Fauna & traffic density options removed from XBox in 2024? Will they be added back?
25:04
Any plans for a WU for other areas of South America?
26:16
When can we expect the ability to download server-based content?
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27:07
Q&A (Aircraft)
27:10
Can the 3rd-party Devs provide updates on their aircraft on Discord?
28:30
Will past LL/FF aircraft be revisited for updates?
29:35
Martial: DLSS4 will be included in SU2, as will be FSR 3.1.
29:43
Is there any chance that we will get the Native 2024 models of planes that are in in 2024 into 2020?
31:12
Could you talk about the AI Pilot Assistant that is absent in 2024 - will it return?
31:47
Will the Embraer Praetor 600 be for 2020, 2024 or both?
32:36
In 2024, is there a way to adjust helicopter sensitivity further or is there a different setting to make these controls less extreme?
36:15
Why are there many aircraft that have the āNot Creator Approvedā tag?
36:52
Any plans to add Darkstar, Pelican & Ornithopter to 2024?
37:47
Will we see licensed liveries on default AI aircraft in 2024?
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38:50
Q&A (World)
38:52
On XBox X, SU1 did not provide much reprieve from poor LOD & blurry textures. Why the delay & will this finally be handled?
44:30
Is there a way to make sea traffic remain rendered at a longer distance?
45:20
Any update on H-225 improvements?
46:29
Can you provide details on your approach to tackling the growing list of issues being reported in the Airport/Heliport Issue Tracker?
49:22
How is rolling cache behaving after your set size is full? Is it necessary to delete the rolling cache file after Sim Updates to get the new update data? Cloud saves, the rolling cache & multiple PCs.
51:16
Are there any plans to revert to pre SU1 lighting/exposure settings? It was one clear improvement from 2020 to 2024 and lots of people complaining during SU1 Beta but it was not changed in final release of SU1.
52:02
Might we see multiplayer liveries return in 2024?
52:20
When released, will the World Hub Scenery Gateway give users more capability than that of the Alpha - if so, what will we see?
53:56
Are all animals live in the Sim? If so, can you provide tips on how to find them.
56:37
World Hub: Is the team acting on the requests and feedback we gave and giving us more features?
57:46
Photogrammetry & TIN - can you expand on the differences between the Global Event show slide & in-sim experience (e.g. Chicago & west of KORD)?
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61:58
Q&A (Career)
62:00
What improvements will we see in SU2? Will heavy cargo missions become available?
64:41
Can we get an explanation of how crewed aircraft & maintenance are supposed to work?
67:44
Will we see helicopters for firefighting?
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68:17
Follow-up from previous Developer Livestreams.
68:26
Wake turbulence. Q: Is Wake Turb is optional in MP? Q: Will it work with injected models, e.g. Vatsim?
72:43
VRAM & Raytracing.
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73:17
Surprise Guest: Nick Dackard, Heatblur Simulations - F4 Phantom.
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77:49
City Update 10 - United States 4: Dallas & Fort Worth, Denver, Honolulu, San Francisco. Planned for April
Dallas! Wowā¦its about time! and Honolulu. and a new San Fran and I guess we didnāt have Denver yet? I hope all that is soon - very soon.
And also I really hope the LOD and memory improvements do a great deal of good for us on X Box.
Also - what the f on the countryside TIN? originally it was āeventually all of North and South Americaā and now its ā100 or so and weāll add them piecemealāā¦wellā¦better than nothing but itād be nice to know what was in and what wasnāt.
I donāt remember that has ever been promised. I think heād originally said he would try to get most national parks in North America and that theyād probably also get something for Europe.
Jorg doesnāt ever really promise anything. He just has high hopes and wants.
Turns out you are partially correct as he never mentioned South America:
but, as he mentioned today, sometimes the countryside TIN data isnāt as good as old fashioned DEM so Iām sure theyāll make good calls. Iāve been seeing more and more obvious new imagery in 2024 thats really sharp and high res. Its ridiculous though because I still think it should be better now that Iāve seen good quality PG.
I found this livestream rather lacklustre. Apart from filling in a few of the timescales, I didnāt finish up with any great feeling of moving forward. VRAM for example - the only advance on that topic was a small improvement for those using ray-tracing, so I donāt really expect that to be fixed in SU2.
The best news for me actually came a day before the livestream - I am now able to download the Aviator edition aircraft in FS2020, so at least I ended up with some benefit from my purchase of FS2024.
So what interested me around this was exactly what was not said: Last monthās livestream suggested that asset optimization was more of a problem than any VRAM bug, at least that was how I heard it. With that in mind, I was listening to see what they would say about bug number one, which was not much. My sense is that since they are optimizing all the first party assets, that they expect bug number one to go away over time. I could be wrong about that supposition but since they didnāt produce a smoking gun for SU2 (which they said last month was ready to go) to polish off, may it just be the way users interpret the results of non/poorly optimized stuff, as a VRAM leak? SU2 is right around the corner, so we will find out soon enough. Meanwhile, I am having a great deal of fun flying whatever works for me in 24, and the rest in 2020. Cheers!
I think it was a really good stream. Lots of questions were asked and answered. SU1 was a step in the right direction and seems SU2 will be even better.
Glad to see Aircraft like Embraer Praetor & Heatblur F-4 coming in too. F-4 is an insta buy for me.
SU2 in April is actually sooner than I thought. I thought Beta branches would start in April with final release in June.
Jorg was pretty clear from the first MSFS2024 stream that the launch was a catastrophe. He still seems very enthusiastic about this project and whatās eventually coming in for us. Thereās clearly passion there. I honestly respect them going to Bat answering pre-recorded questions and live Q&A. Keep in mind they also donāt have to do any of this. Thereās not a whole lot of massive franchise developers who are doing what Asobo is doing with the community. So in a way I think weāre lucky to see that kind of communication every month.
I ditched 2020 when 2024 released, first regretting it, still missing stuff I loved (Bush trips) and some weird bugs, poor UI and whatnot. But it does looks quite a bit better, perform better, load faster (on my end)
Thereās also a lot of cool planes coming in from various 3rd Party. (Flying Iron Spitfire remake, Black Square Analog Caravan, FlightFX Stuff.
That game should have been named Microsoft Flight Simulator 12, drop the ā ā ā ā yearly names. release in fall 2025 and avoid this whole mess lol. They learned the hard way.
Also as a big HPG H160 fan. The answer that Jorg said about the current situation (with HPG and H225) is pretty dire. Really doesnāt look good from HPG side of things. Thereās only 1 thing they have to do, make a statement and support your product. If they donāt, I think thatās the end of them.
I downloaded the Western Montana bust trip from flightsim.to. As far as I could tell it was mostly working except there was no narration in that particular trip.
I was also impressed by the dev stream. I didnāt catch all of it live so I listened to it non live. I was surprised Jorg shared as much as he did regarding the situation with HPG. It was clear he was disappointed.
Itās really nice to see Dallas will be included in Aprilās city update. Like Jorg said ā¦yay!
I feel fortunate Jorg is at the wheel. He definitely has passion and the fact he is a real life pilot helps for sure.
I am so looking forward to SU2 beta. Hopefully it will be a nice surprise.
I posted in the Vram bug thread my take on what was and was not said. In short, I believe there is more to it than what was explained regarding Ray Tracing. Weāll know soon enough.
