And the sun through the clouds - @ASOBO - please make a plan with that . Thank you.
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I donât want to complain again but I just miss the âoldâ MSFS weather.
I noticed it today in particular - there are a lot of storms raging in Austria (especially in the east) - but in the SIM there is hardly anything to see.
It wasnât always accurate in the past, but at least when the forecast was correct it looked impressive.
And since I have carried out a few flights with the FENIX A320 since the release, I have to say that, despite sporadic positive experiences, âunfortunately this is not going to workâ
Letâs just take this new âfogâ as an example - it exists or not - it has nothing to do with the âMETAR desired or requiredâ visibility. So itâs either there or not - visibility in this fog is always the same.
Then back to the storms - these âcellsâ always look the same - a pair of cumulus clouds thrown together and stretching upwards - and above them a thin layer of this âstratus-likeâ layer that even makes my 3090RTX âsweatâ. Always the same.
Neither dangerous looking or dangerous for the flight.
Where are these clouds and cloud fronts where you were still âafraidâ to fly in:
and so on - I donât want to go through my whole collection again - Iâve already posted it too often.
Then the next one - unfortunately I canât find the video - in the past when you flew longer transitions at the approach and saw upcoming cloud fronts in the distance - you could watch the weather changing during the flight and this huge cloud front approaching the airport to be greeted by a rain shower on the way to the gate. everything âtransition freeâ.
Canât watch that now - why ? Well, because even if MeteoBlue forecasts a cloud front - but according to METAR only âFewâ clouds are reported at the airport - this is dissolved and interrupted by METAR - although in reality it has already been raining there for a long time - but METAR has not yet updated itself. Only after reloading the airport does the weather change - so you can say that it is âstaticâ and you have that feeling, compared to before.
To be honest, I donât think that Update 10 will change anything, but Iâm happy to be convinced.
Even this REX video shows that it went without a transition - is that actually still possible with REX since UPDATE 7?
And what I donât understand anymore - when introducing the EPISODE weather with MeteoBlue I understood it - because of the heap of features and incredible possibilities it was clear to me that they donât want to give the weather API to the 3third party developers - but now after you can come up with exactly 3 features, static fog, mostly only 2 cloud layers, more or less only one cloud type, neither turbulence, or up or downdrafts, no wind shears, the weather is still not often accurate (will of course never always be, it´s a SIM), metar bubbles, etc. ..what do you really have to âhideâ ??
Of course, the engine makes the weather look far better than in other SIMs, but it has been better before. (I donât need to be told about the reason for this âreworkâ of the engine, I am an online pilot myself and use real word weather tools, but this could have been solved in a completely different way without destroying the overall look).
Of course I donât want to just complain and say, yes, there are still many good moments, but as I said, I miss the old look.
For me, even a monthly subscription would be conceivable to get higher resolution weather.
It is still visually the most beautiful SIM ever - but the weather should really be âoverhauledâ - and there have already been enough good tips here (many weather threads), I hope this will be taken into account.
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Itâs tragic, it makes me genuinely depressed seeing the state of the sim now. The weather was awesome, the clouds were awesome, the LOD distances were awesome, performance was awesome, being able to do a flight longer than an hour without your fps halving was awesome.
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Oh lord, just imagining having the weather simulated by ICON or COSMO-DE. That would be awesome, and it could even forecast at least a little bit convicing foggy weather. Not mentioning storms etc.
I think we donât even need things like convective turbulence, because the sim canât even simulate cumulonimbus clouds properly 
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I really thought (and hoped) the likes of the PMDG and FENIX would re-ignite my love for MSFS knowing we would finally have something complex to get stuck into. But I soon realised any addon is only as good as the environment itâs simulated in. A weather environment with no storms, no wind gusts (SU10 I know, we will see) and just in general no immersion like we had at release of MSFS just makes this sim dead to me, no matter how good the scenery looks. Whatâs the point on weather API in an environment that doesnât simulate storms? What returns do people expect to get on the weather radar other than heavy rain? Whatâs the point?
The recent XP12 Q&As were the first thing to excite me within flight simulation in months. I know there isnât the eye candy, but hearing their developers talk with such passion and a real willingness to simulate things accurately and correctly is just the opposite end of the scale compared to the MSFS devs.
SU10 really will be make or break for me, and sadly I have very little confidence in the developers.
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I hesitate to say it but Iâve been getting some much more - what I consider to be - realistic and authentic cloud formations recently around the UK. Feels like they have tweaked something server side as Iâm getting high layers again now and far less towering cumulus. Even getting some believable overcasts again.
Havenât seen stuff like this since SU7.
Long may it continue.
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Why removal of those clouds around the airport? METAR is useless in this sim in my opinion. Only makes us confused and makes the weather look strange. Why the need of that METAR window when it doesnât match what we see anyway? The point with METAR in a flight simulator is that it should match the METAR right? Or please explain why this new METAR rendering is needed?
Edit: When i restarted the flight i got this. 
This is so inconcistent. Well hope they fix the issues with METAR soon as they said they wanted to do when we asked them if we could have a toggle to switch METAR-weather on and off. I still want to turn off METAR and itâs 2 sim updates after the release of that thing in su7 soon it will be 3 when su10 is released. I know weather is complex but then why release something that is not ready to be released?
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I found this interesting post in the Wishlist forum: (https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/more-cloud-formations/420176), I voted for it. It should not be in the wishlist section but more in this section since in theory all clouds types were supported at launch. Unfortunately as of today I am only seeing maybe 2 types of clouds at most and this thread should be flagged at least as âFeedback-loggedâ. Issue is clear and replicable.
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Back from a low and slow tour of the Inner Hebrides where I tried a few live weather options. My conclusion in terms of best options, starting from worst:
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Rex live weather. Looks really good but I really suffered really serious stuttering whenever I approached cloudy conditions. For me this alone tenders Rex live pointless.
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In game live weather. It has improved a bit, but I flew in a constant state of unease, waiting for the entire weather palette to switch from one second to the next. Cloudbanks blinking in and out of existence in an instance. It happened every second flight. Apart from this I think it helped that the Hebrides werenât close to METAR points (at least I donât think they are). When I arrived back in Dublin instead I was greeted by the ever present otherworldly volcanic sci-fi nightmare âcloudsâ. They are so so so bad. I hadnât seen them since I left Dublin a few weeks back.
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DIY live weather. Just check Meteoblu online and build the weather yourself before flying. This is an acceptable option for me as most of my flights are quite short so in real life there wouldnât be toooo much variation between departure and destination.
So itâll be mostly be DIY live weather for me going forward and just continue to live in hope that someday weâll return to something like pre Metar pre SU7 weather.
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Well, i canât see them switching back to pre su7 weather now. That makes me also see none potential in this weather system. They will now focus 8 years try to make METAR and Meteoblue blend well 
We will not see more data added from Meteoblue that will create even more disturbances. We will always see disturbances in that kind of system with thousands of different weather sources instead of one.
How many weather sources do we have IRL? Yes, one! The sun creates weather for us IRL. And to me it felt like one weather source at release with no disturbances at all besides it didnât match METAR. But the real weather doesnât need to match METAR either. Itâs the METAR that needs to match the weather at the moment itâs reported.
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Itâs unbelievable that after all this time, the in-sim metar doesnât match the in-sim ATIS, which doesnât match the weather depicted on screen, which doesnât match the weather shown on the world map (top right corner). Itâs just a jumbled random mess! And to top it all the clouds look like something from a cartoon rather than the realistic looking layers we used to have pre-SU7. I am totally disillusioned with this. Personally I donât care about spaceships, top gun etc. I just want to fly in a realistic looking sky where the ATIS matches what I can see on screen. Creating custom weather is ok, but it is the same at the departure and destination, and thatâs not really a solution.
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This sums it up 
Make a report of what we will see in the sim and it will always match the weather we see. And use this report everywhere. Worldmap, atis and METAR and also send it outside of the sim with simconnect to be able to use it in different planning tools. Too late for that now i think. I hope not.
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Well, the extreme wind shifts and pressure changes are back. Seemed good for a while. Nearly swatted out of the air again. I lost 2000 ft and my plane shot nose up. Thought this was fixed. but apparently not. Sucks!
Whatever happened, today weather and cloud depiction was better than ever before. Including around the time of release, in my opinion. Incredible!
Iâve seen good weather too then the next time i use the sim itâs bad again or i can see the weather change to really bad in a second. I hope they fix the inconsistency in su10. Will soon find out in su10 beta i bet. My expectations is not that high though.
I wish i could change weather to su6 weather because that i know were consistent. No hard transitions. And the weather looked unique everytime i was flying.
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^^^ 100% agree
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I just wonder if the weather system was intended to work like they released it in su7? Canât understant how they could release it in the state it was. In the q&a right before su7 was released they said it was much improvement with only few small glitches. I could see so many more big issues implemented than things they improved. Actually i couldnât see a single improvement. Then after su7 they suddenly say weather is complex and needs many updates to get fixed. How many i wonder?
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I can only think that the onboarding of XBOX had something to do with this. Maybe they discovered the weather in its state prior to SU7 just wouldnât cut it on XBOX, so they had to make a plan to accomodate the console, and therefore degraded aspects of it to make perf acceptable to those playersâŚ
Obviously just speculation on my part, but is the only logical explanation i can think of.
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Could be, but why not the implementation in su5 when the sim was released on xbox? I know of xbox users also complaining about the su7 weather system.
