Yeah the past few days have been horrendous
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Same, particularly bad since yesterday for meâŠwho knows why it has bad dsys and better ones?!
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Letâs have a look at todayâs situation around 09:00Z and put Live Weather to a test on a flight from EDDH to EGLC in FL130. Hereâs the satellite imagery from Meteoblue.
The game in EDDH: âokayishâ I would say, or to put it this way: I think I could have seen the same in P3D with any of the METAR synthezising addons, minus volumetry. You can see at first glance: aha, MSFS!
Webcam EDDH in comparison:
On a plus-side: to the southeast the higher clouds (1) are still to be seen.
Meteoblue has them in their NEMS model
Reaching EHAM (2), the weather changes from fair to rainy - thatâs o.k, although directly overhead EHAM I encountered a sudden change in cloud depiction, probably to the next METAR report being blended in:
But further into the route, over the North Sea and probably without METAR influence, this looked strange: virgae or rain from a thin middle high cloud coverage, while the clouds below didnât look like they were able to produce any rain:
Reaching EGLC (3), the weather cleared to the usual translucent puffiness.
Webcam in the vicinity:
My conclusion:
The data for Live weather seem to be accurate enough, the deficit lies in the translation of these data into a convincing weather depiction as we have seen before SU7.
In those days I often had too look twice to differentiate between photo and sim.
Now MSFS is recognizable at first glance - and that is not a compliment!
And the translation problem seems to exist outside of METAR areas as well, as the rain-producing AS-clouds west of EHAM demonstrate.
I still have hopes that they mange to create convincing cloudscapes as we have seen from release until SU7. The accuracy of cloud depiction is not even mediocre.
The weather depiction may be accurate to the numbers, but is recognizable as a gaming environment at first glance, and that is a shame considering the capabilities of the sim demonstrated until SU7.
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Exactly my feel after su7 also. Pre su7 i had much varied weather that actually made the weather feel like weather. Now it feels forced in place. Feels more like a painted sky than a fluid.
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Thanks for taking the added time to document and show comparisons. More of that needs to be done to help further solidify the issue. Just yapping about it isnât enough. Developers and programmers need evidence.
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And here the wall of rain or âairport umbrellaâ.
Now it reports rain
Why canât they make this bad METAR integration optional? I want the weather to behave realistic. I want the simulated weather model i bought 2 years ago back.
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But it scsres me tgat they need us to know/notice these things
It probably scared them that we asked and wanted to have weather functionality features that are considered 18 years old, i.e, METAR based.
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I wonder what system would be the most popular if they re-implemented the pre su7 weather model again? Iâm sure many of those that even asked to have METAR-weather would use it again.
I remember when rex released METAR weather addon near release 2020 and i bought that and instantly switched back to Meteoblue weather because it were really bad see a local weather be set globally like a preset. Same thing is happening in the sim now but we canât switch back anymore. We are forced to use METAR either we like it or not.
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There will always be those out there who despite advances or new methods will feel that what has worked for them for so many years is the only solution and that anything else just doesnât provide the best result. While during the period where METARS provided the weather, they worked well for their intended purpose, but their range for what they were able to provide was very limited and in simple terms, basic. It was a simple solution to bring the outside weather into the sim. Now that we have the option to bring outside weather into the sim using more data than ever before possible and forecasted hours into the future, still blows my mind that so many out there thought doing so would somehow âruinâ their experience with flight planning or flying. Itâs what the majority wanted and nobody at the time decided to think outside of the box and see it as being more of an advantage than a setback.
Simplistic METAR strings were more important than the WOW factor of the varied yet ACCURATE weather that we saw in the sim before. I can tell you, again, my local METAR station is severely behind whatâs going on outside up until the point it updates and even then, 5-10 minutes later can be completely useless.
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And some says itâs needed to be able to plan a flight. Are they only making a route for 2 minutes flight?
Even when taxing the weather can change much IRL. Iâve seen videos and real fog that changes in seconds. And METAR only updates every 30-60 minutes. And then is exactly the same for 30-60 minutes.
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Even if they claim itâs absolutely needed to do their flight, itâs nothing that canât be found in a 5 second internet search. Why would something so easily available need to be a core function? People are in the best way, downright lazy. Most would rather just view it in sim than just tab over and look it up. Not to mention, I have planned my descent with the METAR and by the time I got to the airport, it had changed. Iâm not going to go check it every 5 minutes to see if it changes. Itâs meant to paint an overall picture. Nothing says nor does it say, this is required. Pilots could load up and takeoff without ever referencing the METAR and what would it matter?
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Right now I am about to descend into Houston and will check the METAR JUST to grab the altimeter setting and then that will be the end. Iâm of course, going to use an easily accessible website since Iâm out of range for in sim reference. The more you outline the âuselessnessâ of it in sim, hopefully the more people will realize it as well.
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And then when you see how the weather condition is there with your own eyes you adapt to the weather conditions at that place. We donât need the weather to be adapted to the METAR. Itâs not how weather works/behaves IRL.
I think i may be too repitive though 
But i just want my old weather model back that i loved.
Itâs hard to show an issue with something that is intended. The issue is that i know METAR disturb the simulation of the weather. Itâs not a simulated weather anymore. Itâs fixed inplace.
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Well yes, you use METARs to PLAN a flight. That doesnât imply that METARS must be used as a SOURCE for the actual weather. Thatâs putting the cart very much in front of the donkey.
No wonder it causes all sorts of detrimental issues. The whole idea is backwards.
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That is true 
I remember a pilot and a user told me that they should have added METAR into the sim as text only. And let the weather be. That i would have agreed with.
But we would have still seen those complaining weather doesnât match METAR even that all of the users know that Meteoblue weather is in use. But that complain Asobo shouldnât have listening too. Only explained what source of weather (Meteoblue) that is in use or maybe add an option for those users that needed it to match those. Not force it on all of us. Because we already had the METAR as an optional feature with 3rd party addons. And now we have 0 options after su7 anymore.
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Thank you, sir. ATC gives you the arrival altimeter and tower gives you the winds, what exactly is METAR giving you that isnât provided? If you donât have ATC, check your phone or something or just fly with what itâs giving you and adjust. People have confused planning the flight with flying the flight.
Just landed in HOU and lo and behold. The METAR when I started my descent was not the same when I just got to the gate and looked in sim. By that logic, my flight was ruined and I should have crashed. sarcasm hat removed
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you guys think we will notice some changes tomorrow in SU11 final build ?
I donât think so honestly. I hope though that we will see weather engine changes in the future. I want the non-metar-interrupted mb weather back.
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i donât know, they said improvements in the weather engine, whether that was solely in regard of the thermals I donât know..