Seems to me that the injection of fog or lower visibility messes with the clouds also
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The overall cloud depiction is still far too cumulus-heavy, translucent and puffy:
The game today:
Webcam airport:
I can not be sure because I didnât save METAR reports with screenshots back in the good old days of pre-SU7 clouds, but back then it most probably might have looked more like this:
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Those look like stratocumulus or stratus. As you mentionned, most of the time we only have cumulus in Live weather. Hope they will implement all cloud types (and multi-layers) as promised at launch, I just have uploaded real life examples in the thread requesting that enhancement More cloud formations! - #45 by DementedCorn327
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I live a couple of miles from a major uk airport, been raining and windy most of the day outside. I log on the game (I know. Sim, but at the moment it doesnât feel like a sim),and itâs 24 degree and sunshine. And hardly any wind.
Have you tried toggling online services/weather on and off or switching to a different server for Xbox?
Yep - the sim is incapable of producing a flat cloud layer in a metar area. However, it does them wonderfully in a non-metar area. Like this yesterday in the middle of nowhere Kazakhstan. beautiful.
As soon as you get to a metar bubble - bang, puffy all-the-same-everywhere cumulus everywhere.
It is really frustrating as clearly the sim is capable of more varied clouds but the metar keeps interfering.
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Asobo did simulate weather at release. This forum thread is proof of that. No hard transitions at all in those videos. The weather was formed during the day dynamically. Accurate? Not all the time but close enought in my opinion. Lightnings occured often i can agree. Some complained about fog in that thread but now we have 0 fog formed like in the videos with fog 
0 complains in that thread about hard transitions and stuff that i got after 30 minutes of recording November 4th.
And here is my short timelapse i made 4th November at a nearby airport with METAR here in Sweden. The weather looks ok in this video though. And iâm sorry that i forgot to have the weather panel open in the start of the video.
I want my weather back that i bought 2 years ago. It were amazing Asobo 
Iâm happy with that as an optional feature
Will make more time-lapse videos and post here. Will try at mountains and see if i can get some clouds forming there. But iâm mostly sure i will not get that thing. Could often see clouds/fog near ground over mountains at release. Now i only get that METAR fog layer that covers a massive amount of area instead and is not dynamically formed.
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Here is the METAR switch. Notice the few clouds reported in Meteoblue page at the beginning of the clip changing to broken clouds then the weather suddenly switches 2 minutes later in the sim. Notice the yellow tone in the clouds after the switch.
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So the sim is reacting to what MB is changing to which purports that the METARS are coming or to some extent being affected from MB, thatâs positive.
Yes, thats what seb told us. But i donât want METAR to disturb Meteoblue weather. Creates those hard transitions and circles around airports. I really hope to see the old stream of data that is fluid as an optional weather system. Thats what we had pre su7. And i could use METAR as an option with 3rd party addons. Now we are all forced to use METAR.
Positive? not for me, thats what made the sim weather worse in su7. Thats what we are reporting as an issue here. METAR disturb Meteoblue weather and has tried to do since su7 were released.
I know itâs intended but we that got used to the weather we had before su7 and adapted to that new system dislikes this old FSX type of weather with hard transitions and METAR bubbles.
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But what I was saying is that up until now we were just assuming that METAR and MB were completely separate things. Now that it âappearsâ the METAR is coming from MB as the source since the changing in the sim correlates to MBâs website, whatever options in the future or what is needed to change things can be done more efficiently since itâs all coming from the same location.
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Agree, but to get optional streams of data i think they need to have two different servers to get weather from. I hope they are able to provide us that
Iâm would actually pay one more time to get the old weather back. Feels wrong though. Because i already payed for Meteoblue only type of weather 2 years ago. And i would only pay if i knew for sure they would improve it only with data from Meteoblue that already fits the global weather.
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Which ever solution or work around they come up with or agree upon, if thatâs where this ultimately ends up, at least itâs coming directly from MB to Asobo and vice versa. Should make implementing a lot easier than if it was coming from outside. 3 am here, time to sleep. Good night/day.
Yes, we will see in upcoming sim updates i bet.
Here itâs day right now Goodnight 
As I have stated before I believe it is the same source - METEOBLUE (FORECAST) is METAR and vice versa - the METAR I believe comes from METEOBLUE and is interpolated when the METAR data changes. Thatâs why we see these âhardâ transitions - because these are the âbasic errorsâ of the METAR based engines. You can see it quite well on your videos - an âanimationâ is played which abruptly restarts when the METAR data / values change - and METEOBLUE data then comes in and is apparently interpolated âat the bordersâ or adapted to the METAR - thatâs why you also see these strange and almost always the same looking clouds in the METAR area (borders). And the good âappearanceâ or the current âgoodâ experience (or not) probably depends on how close METAR stations are to each other and how often they are âinterpolatedâ and how large the diversity between METAR and FORECAST is at the moment. and there we have the salad. (I guess of course)
Yes since su7 Meteoblue integrate METAR into the Meteoblue weather. Before we only had Meteoblue weather besides wind, temp and pressure. And that blending destroys the Meteoblue weather. Meteoblue destroys their own weather simulations LOL. I bet itâs hard to improve that by Asobo. Itâs Meteoblue that needs to improve that blending. And i bet itâs even hard for Meteoblue to make unknown METAR fit already calculated Meteoblue forecasts. Thats why i want the old stream back as an option without METAR.
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But unfortunately the weather is in bad shape even away from METAR areas, like today i wax flying in the middle of the irish sea,cand the clouds were wrong at every level, the satellite and the game world map showed an endles overcast from Cornwall to Ireland, and yet in the fame the clouds were mostly broken, convective, some of them were more like artifacts more than clouds. In reality here in belfast it was overcast with stratus clouds. Again the weather is a mess even outside METAR areas.
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Made an interesting observation today and developed a new theory. I loaded into SFO which today has some weather moving through the area. On initial load the sky looked just how it should look. About roughly 5 minutes later as I was pushing back and getting ready to taxi I saw the weather switch and this was right around the time a new METAR dropped. Hereâs my theory, which we already have a good idea of, but Iâll share anyways.
Loading into a âclean setupâ by default provides MB even though you can still access and see METAR from the respective window. Once a METAR update occurs either at the airport youâre at or around the active area, thatâs when youâll see the shift from the good to the ugly and from then on METAR permanently has an influence and this is where the âblendedâ part comes into effect and stays that way. To support my theory, the instances when youâre flying and you see weather that is too good to be true, is because youâve flown into an area that hasnât been affected by this intrusion or the METAR has âblown awayâ and youâre just left with MB.
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Then why donât we see METAR bubbles on their Nowcast weather maps like we do in the sim? Asobo said Meteoblue would inject METAR into their models but that would require recomputing each time a new report is available.
Maybe they only do a simple blend given the time constraints and with the more frequent updates reduced the amount of weather data too. Clouds still look generic and repetitive outside METAR areas. Far from the unique intricate shapes and density of pre su7.
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I bet this is the answere.
Also this
Raw model data
Numerical weather models are defining their space by dividing it into grid cells. These are generally refined to the point by applying different post-processing methods as downscaling, multi-modelling and others. Raw data for large areas can be retrieved in gridded format:
I request to have Raw model data as an option without post-processing applied 
And that data is provided 2 times per day and looked amazing and realistic. Thats what we had pre su7.
I dontât expect it to be perfect accurate, i only expect it to not be disturbed by other sources of data. I want and expect simulated weather in the flight simulator.
And a question @ZodiaLight , where can i choose nowcast weather maps on their webpage?
I bet it would look bad with circles dotted on their weathermaps. Thats why they not showing those circles every where.
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