It’s not wrong … So indeed, it’s a great financial jackpot …
Not really the kind of thing a major software developer just makes up and then uses for marketing. Maybe that resource starved 3 man team @Abriael mentioned might try to get away with it. Someone like Microsoft would be crucified for trying it and I am pretty sure the marketing team would be looking for work.
Maybe those 3 guys could get them cheap after they were blackballed from the rest of the industry.
You are right, the industrialists too. Sweet soda and cigarettes are good for you. Stop believing everything you read … think about it.
Well if someone is more of a VFR pilot like me than I can totally understand that. I recently installed X-Plane 11 to try it with my new VR set and while the VR implementation is still excellent I was a bit sad when I looked at the scenery.
It is just great to have a believable scenery wherever you go, to be able to navigate instantly in an area you know from the real world. Sure, for an airliner pilot these things are less important, I can understand that also.
But even when going for a quick IFR flight in the Zibo 737 I can still miss things that add to the immersion factor in MSFS like the wet and glossy tarmac at night, the cones of the landing lights in the fog and the awesome clouds. Sure, you can get a somewhat similar experience in X-Plane 11, but I couldn’t bother with the hassle to install and configure the numerous plugins and stuff anymore.
Really?! Pretty sure the rules have changed since Camel ran those ads. Also pretty sure that the social fabric has become a bit less tolerant of blatant marketing lies.
And that is the second time today you have tried to bait me by implying I am stupid, or inexperienced.
Maybe just try having a conversation.
That’s twice
Yes for that, FS2020 is really exceptional. It’s a great simulator. I’m on the B787 and I’m really happy now after a few months of adjustments.
Sorry, but I am responding with reasoning. I didn’t mean to hurt you. And what I say is plausible and does not detract from the quality of the simulator which is excellent.
I admire you for not being afraid to voice scepticism. During many years in sales & marketing I learned that the word BS is a common marketing term. and statistics should be questioned.
I must admit that it is unlikely that the cleaning lady tilted the Abacus in the office being used by the counting marketing guys but…
In September, MS announced sales of 1,000,000 ‘licences’. Announced now are 2,000,000 ‘pilots’. I guess any MS store user who has downloaded the sim once to try it, can be considered to be one of those new 1,000,000 pilots.
Strange is that the Stream statistics show no signs of such fantastic increase in users since September. Amazing how this forum has coped with a twofold user increase.
I hope these 1,000,000 new pilots are not having to fly with keyboard and mouse but are instead happy with their xbox controllers and will not want yokes and rudder pedals in the near future because they appear to be scarce.
And before someone calls this fangirl bitter - Wrong. I have always hoped for a 5.000,000+ user base.
Just food for thought.
Edit: I meant MS store user.
The game isn’t out for Xbox and won’t be for another half a year at the earliest.
If you worked in marketing, you should know that a publicly-traded company “■■■■■” on sales figures commits a punishable federal crime. That’s a major no no and that’s why this kind of numbers are offered only occasionally.
It’s honestly a bit funny to see people doubting numbers that for an AAA game are pretty much average.
They’re great for a simulator considering that the genre has been surviving on peanuts and hopes for over a decade, but there’s nothing even remotely strange in 2 million users for AAA software releasing on a subscription service on top of two major digital download platforms pushed with the marketing resources of the largest software company on the planet.
Another milestone reached. Even more encouraging, is that its inspiring young gamers all around viewing social media accounts, YT/Twitch and wanting to now learn to fly. Maybe enough inspiration to choose to be a pilot as a career choice just like FSX and all the previous iterations did. This means a stronger base into the future for our hobby. Really great to see. Welcome everyone.
Could be they are some of the millions of FSX, P3D, Xplane ‘pilots’ that already had our joysticks and yokes.
Thanks for posting this info. This is outstanding news.
Congrats Asobo & MS.
What is amazing is that it is difficult to express an opinion without creating a controversy. I just said that this figure was curious … and probably exaggerated. Now everyone thinks what they want. We all have the right to express ourselves.
Yes I know. I follow the progress of this sim quite closely. I meant MS store user - see my edit.
Thank you for your contribution but it changes neither my scepticism nor my entitlement to give an opinion here - whter it suit you or not.
But then again announcing a ‘number of pilots’ does not state sales figures.
Then simply be amused in this case and allow other forum user to have an opinion sometimes without having to respond each time.
Totally agree to that- Otherwise, let’s just agree to disagree.
As a matter of fact yes, it does. The two figures are directly related. Federal law is not so easily circumvented simply by changing a word, even more so in finance.
Funny you’d think that accusing someone of a literal crime shouldn’t cause “controversy.”
This quite simply is a very successful product. I’m not exactly sure why some have so many issues accepting that.
Well, I do hope so - because it would also means that those who said goodbye have come back and those who have made an effort to slag off the sim where ever they could, have been unsuccessful.
And, they will hopefully not be in the queue for Honeycomb flight controllers
I was happily pushing my PMDG 737 around the FSX skies while downloading MSFS. Not all that sure that many actually left.
Thanks for your legal opinion. I always wondered why you get five legal opinions when you ask two lawyers for legal advice. We must again agree to disagree. Let’ see if you can leave it at that, just once.Thank you.
I’m reasonably positive both will advise you in all of their five opinions to avoid risking federal prosecution in boasting sale numbers of a video game.
VOP-All. Congratulations to MS and Asobo. Please keep pouring money into fixes. As I remarked in another thread. I suspect over the next few years, as many as 20,000,000 possible as the stories about the visuals get around. Hopefully by that time, everything will work the buttons on the Honeycomb Yoke and Throttle Quadrant, etc. NOTE: Not talking about scalpers on eBay, not sure sales on that platform, but reasonable folks like us won’t pay those prices, or stoop that low, we all have standards right?
But if anyone here has tried to buy any hardware related to flight simulation, the backlog is deep. For instance, honeycomb TQ ordered in Sep 2, 2020, supposed to be here week of Xmas (doubtful), I ordered Virpil grip/base/bracket in October, the label to ship to me was created yesterday, no physical movement yet from manufacturer. If you try to order anything, (eBay above) impossible to get anytime soon. HC in reply to my email about Yoke availability said earliest in March 2021. So those numbers released are more-n-likely spot on. Now I see ads for Cyberpunk on TV, and it looks well (old fellow here) disgusting, murder/killing/mayhem, enough of that in the world, don’t need to play and pay for it, just watch nightly news. This sim OTOH, makes you actually THINK, if you even remotely do any planning prior to TO, you check fuel, and a host of other things to make sure you are safe, that sometimes the sim kills you is another thing.
Interestingly, PC hardware is also in short supply, some due to CV-19, but people are upgrading and building PC’s in droves, many to fly this simulator, I know I certainty did for this laptop, it had to be strong enough to fly MSFS2020. So in some part MS and Asobo are keeping the economy running in this space anyway. Suspect, Xbox and Xmas sales are only going to increase the airwaves in the Sim. The sky’s are going to get crowded if online pilots start taking off and flying. I believe if the Big Iron Birds/ATC/AP’s were prioritized in fixing, it would only increase the sales of all facets of hardware, and this game. How many young people have secretly wanted to fly 787 or 747 or even the A320? Millions of them have. I don’t know anyone who does not look up, when big plane fly’s overhead, every one of us does, every time. I rest my opinion.