MSFS 2020 and stutters

I noticed this on my rig too. I bought this PC in January expressly for MSFS but I had to cut a few corners on it. This one has an I7-10700k and nVidia 2080Su with only 16gigs of RAM - so I assumed that I would need to lock FPS at 30, along with some medium settings in MSFS graphics, to get any kind of performance.
WRONG. The result was a lot of micro-stutters and choppy gameplay, as well as some underwhelming visuals.
In FSX there were a few places to limit performance items, like FPS and resolution, etc.. So rather than try to figure all of that out I just turned off the FPS limiter and tried again. This time the performance was much better - avg 50 FPS !
I tried another FSX trick and doubled the monitor resolution in the Nvidia panel but left it at the original monitor resolution in the MSFS GUI and got another 10 FPS.
Then I watched a few MSFS settings tutorials on better FPS and saw that a few of the visual settings could be set to Medium, and others at High and there was very little difference visually to Ultra - so I increased a few things according to that reference, and reduced some others and got a very nice increase in visual quality with almost no impact on frame rates.
The point of this wall is that MS have done a good job of ensuring that the performance envelope overall for their flightsim has a pretty wide doorway - it lets a lot of folks in. Unfortunately the room inside is a bit funnel shaped, or more aptly - is a bit like a funhouse room. Your results can vary so much once inside the sim there seems to be no pattern to it.
One of the settings comparison vids—> https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/QFQQaP7PKDk

It is msfs…

Brilliantly put!

Interesting. Can you expand on this? Are you describing setting your monitor Res higher than your actual monitor resolution in the Nvidia driver control panel?

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yeah - open nvidia control panel to ā€˜manage 3D settings’ - scroll down to DSR-factors (I doubled it to 2x native resolution and DSR smoothness to 33%)

** make sure to open your monitor resolution and set the new number from the drop down list!!! just right click on the desktop and you should see the ā€˜Display Settings’ option - click on that and make sure you have the new res loaded **

then go to MSFS GUI and set the sim resolution to the monitors original native resolution - and now you are running the game at 1/2 of your DSR upscaled resolution.

In MSFS just as in FSX this makes a difference to your overall average frame rates - or at least it does here.
Remember to save the changes in your nvidia control panel and confirm your new monitor resolution before you open MSFS. Then just confirm you are still reporting your original monitor resolution there..
If you want to play around a bit you can fly with the original resolution - then change it to your new upscaled DSR setting and see what that looks like.
nothing is damaged by changing the DSR settings and you can always revert. You can also try going to 2.5, 3.0,3.5. or 4.0x native and whatnot as well as looking into the DSR smoothness setting. I rested on 2x and 33% because it gave me the best improvements overall

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This i can confirm and its even possible to leave desktop settings to 1920x1080 setting or lower and then upscale in msfs.
Say for the 2550x1440 res and set scale slider to 100 or 80

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Same for me. Smooth inflight but lots of stutter when coming in for landing and also taxiing regardless of airport. What is happening and how can i fix this..stutter free is especially important when landing.

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Could not agree more. No matter the settings and the struggle,
stutter when landing and taxiing regardless of airport.

I remember back in FSX time, most of us spent more time tweaking that game more than flying. Fast forward in 2021 we do the same thing on msfs. Bufferpools=0, anyone? :smile:
They should have called it tweaking simulator.

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0 stutter for me after todays windows update

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KatiesAura, very difficult to believe this…
Would you be so kind and show me a video like the one I made
also with landing / taxiing and 180 degree turns, maybe with the 747 / 787
or even the Daher or the A320, which depicts what you call "0 stutter "…?

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Dear LBPN, I agree completely and remember well…
Moreover, as plentifully demonstrated in this and other threads,
on the contrary, no tweaking whatsoever necessary in DCS. All maxed out,
60 FPS solid and fixed at 4K, smooth as butter…

Can we please just stop.

MSFS is not DCS. DCS ā€œAll Maxed Outā€ is still not MSFS. There are a thousand reasons this comparison is invalid. My 10 year old computer could run Autocad Inventor quickly and efficiently but I had no choice but to upgrade when I switched to Fusion. Software changes, evolves and is designed to utilize new technology.

Shall we remember that this is a MSFS forum. We are here to discuss MSFS and its merits and shortcomings. If you would like to discuss DCS, do it on the DCS forums.

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Hi @KatiesAura , could you go into Windows Update and let us know exactly what update was installed? I’d love to try it as well.

Thanks!
Scott

2021-05 cumulative update for windows 10 version20H2 for x64-based systems (KB5003173)
installed 5/12/2021

testing it and so far there is some definite improvement

yep this windows updated bumped to .985 and seems alot smoother

so far from me the following step had to be taken -

  1. Swallow my pride and reduce settings to ā€˜high’.
  2. get NvInspector and enable gsync in both full screen and windows mode and set FPS to 40.
  3. enable vsync on sim and limit the sim to 20 fps

I think FS looks decent.

Hello willisxdc, it seems that you are the only bothered by this.
The comparaison refers to the graphics engine / stutters and not expressly about DCS.
That is why I referred also to a good half a dozen other games, on wich the graphics engine
delivers smooth movement, fact that MSFS does not, no matter how much we struggle.

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my stutter is really bad, still after the update. Stutters for half a second every 2 seconds.

got i7 9700, 32GB ram, 3070 GPU, flight sim has its own dedicated 1TB SSD…

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Pff yeah very sad..

LukeC888: Yeah… welcome to our community, the stutter-club!

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