I had a look on it and been flying.
Near 90% of errors and warnings been reduced on smaller PC, not bad their work. 
Some minor cosmetic logical updates seen also, when so much water is around Venice. Must have been some private Wishlist.
But my brand new Xbox X they abandoned since years.
This would have been the game changer indeed. Would have been to nice…
Listen to this man. I did, and he’s right.
Forget about the dumpster fire for a while and enjoy FS20 for what it is, a competent and mature sim.
Enjoying the hobby should taken priority over using the latest iteration of a sim. Who cares if it’s the latest if it’s so broken that using it is, at best, a frustrating chore?
I fly the Citation X in XP12 quite a bit and love it. There is no comparison to how easy and reliable XP is compared to FS, but, does lack the great graphics that FS has when you’re not seeing melted lumps that are supposed to be buildings 
(referring to FS2020 here). I have no interest in FS24 until I hear only good things about it and they get more high quality planes.
Spent thousands on this hobby 2024 has killed my enthusiasm stone dead not flying at all .just cant stand the bugged software. I am a quest 3 vr flyer .no fixes at all never got more than 20 ft off the ground on 2024 till I can’t stand the juddering mess that 2024 vr is been flying since fs98 long time p3d and 2020 beta tester .i keep going back to 2020 to see how good it can be .but I have to fly the latest or nothing.next sim update nothing for vr and not even the save flight fixed essential for me and bugged in both sims.ms have my money they are not bothered but software and hardware are losing out big time .
Fully agreed. Unfortunately I often can’t even get to have a flight in the first place. This sim is an absolute betrayal and those who decided this sim should be released in this state should be thoroughly ashamed.
Maybe the creators whole purpose with FS2024 was to make FS2020 seem better…GRIN
Let’s face it FS2024 was NEVER properly BETA tested and was released way too early in the production process. It was not a completed game and the developers knew it but released it anyway for some “marketing reason”.
I went back to FS2020 and only open FS2024 to see if any of the problems have been solved/fixed.
It is remarkable to me that the “creators” have not been more forthcoming with solutions or fixes since this program was released. It is also strange that they have communicated less than when FS2020 had problems and they were communicating more with the user base.
I have not asked for my money back and hope that eventually they will get the sim fixed. My only real hope is that they get it fixed and soon…FWIW
Likewise.
When I found out about MSFS, this was back in the 80’s when PC’s were still new and expensive as oil-rights.
I found that Atari was promoting their new Atari-XE, (with extra, (banked), memory), and bundled it with the Atari version of MSFS. I still have the scar on my bum where I burned it because of the speed that my wallet came outta’ my pocket! Like I needed ANOTHER 8-bit console, but like my fancy-pants PC today, I bought it for the sole purpose of flying the sim.
Since then I bought every version of MSFS I could find: FS-2000, 2004, FSX, and now both MSFS-2020 and 2024.
On the one hand, as a, (retired), Software Quality Engineer, (and a senior member of ASQ), I am absolutely appalled at the quality of both the execution and the functional maturity of both 2020 and 2024.
IMHO, 2020 was, and still is, “Beta quality”. 2024 is an early Alpha release that hasn’t matured enough to have earned the title of “Beta” software.
Given the scope of what they’re trying to accomplish, it’s almost acceptable. It would have been more palatable if they’d been more up-front about it: This is bleeding-edge technology for a sim, there are, (and will be), issues with it, perhaps severe, and we gratefully appreciate any feedback you can provide.
Likewise, clear and unambiguous feedback to US, the paying users, indicating what they’re working on at present, (so we don’t waste time complaining about other things), and what they’ve planned for the future.
On the other hand:
I recognize that this is, indeed, bleeding edge technology for a user-facing product and that it will have its issues. I am also tickled pink that I can use it, inasmuch as it is able to be used.
What say ye?
@FPVSteve I actually have XP11 an 12, and have been flying it a little more and playing around with improvements for terrain detail (MapEnhancement, Ortho4XP, etc.). For IFR flights XP12 is great, but for VFR, or even IFR with visual procedures, it lacks a lot. Nevertheless I like it a lot with its own strengths. The Cub in it is awesome, among others.
@Jimrh1993 I do agree with almost everything you said, particularly with 2024 being alpha stage. I do think that two months is a reasonable amount of time to expect some improvements, which aren’t there, or to the very least, a decent detailed announcement and prospective. My strongest agreement is with the absolute lack of feedback to us, as you well described. We don’t know what’s being worked on, what are the future plan and what we should expect when.
We could have two interpretations about this lack of communication. On one hand we could say that they are working on the core bugs that probably chain with each other to break the whole experience, so we could assume that they’re looking at our reports and fixing the base of them. On the other hand, unfortunately, and by the SU1 update contents, we could also assume they’re working on all the known issues at release moment, hence very few of the bug reports are considered in the changelog. Sadly, the latters seems to be more realistic.
I know this can sound pretty negative. The purpose of this isn’t spreading negativity, but to communicate why so many of us are tired and disappointed, and to summarise everything I could grab that ruins the experience in a single post. Proper communication has been asked in several posts here in the forums, but I think that the absolute disregard to this forum complains in dev updates feels near disrespectful.
As I said earlier, I think that we do deserve at least a proper path and priorities from MS/Asobo and when to expect a somewhat working sim, together with the changes we’re asking for (missions available outside career mode, ATC fixes, downloadable content, etc.). SU1 doesn’t look promising, SU2 we don’t have any idea of what to expect, etc.
Don’t want to repeat myself, as I do think that eventually bugs will be sorted out (not sure about what on the whishlist will make it) and the experience will improve and at least be acceptable. However, walking in the shadows based on hopes when there’s an actual business (we pay for a software, we expect a proper working software) isn’t the happiest scenario.
Hey look at the bright side, at least I stopped looking at deals on the 7900XTX and trying to convince the wife that ICs in GPUs might be eventually edible and might contain important minerals, I guess that’s a plus 
I bought XP 12 recently and it’s certainly a viable alternative not to mention that it’s not dependant on servers too. I have to say though that it is pretty badly optimised atm.
I don’t think that you are alone.
Strange behaviour and to me incomprehensible especially given the state of the sim and the number of customers who feel let down.
Well said. THose of us who’ve stuck with Asobo/Jorg since day 1 all feel this way, I believe. 2024 was a slap in our face.
I also have been disappointed in 2024, having spent the money on the aviator edition. I fly 90% VR with a Pimax Crystal, and have had nothing but problems in 2024, CTDs, UI, mouse issues, poor performance, I just gave up and went back to 2020, where everything just works, all my 3rd party scenery and aircraft work, and performance is good (most of the time). I also recently starting flying in DCS, I know its apples-Oranges, but the smoothness in VR is soooo much better, the program starts in VR, and it not just an overlay like in 2020/2024….
But I feel the malaise that others have mentioned because of the failure that is 2024, and it really is, poor launch, poor communications by devs, lack of progress regarding fixes, especially concerning VR…. Really SU2 to fix anything? I haven’t been flying in sim as much, even the stable 2020 hasn’t given me much pleasure, I feel as many have CHEATED, LIED TO, and FORGOTTEN. I used to post on the forums everyday, join in the weekly community flights, enter the weekly image challenge, now I don’t do any of that…
The only thing which has kept me somewhat sane, is that I have been working on my real world CPL, maybe by time I have that, 2024 will be fixed? Maybe not? I know for certain that I have not purchased any new addons since before Xmas and have not plan to for the foreseeable future….
The latest rumor now brings me more concern…. Porting 2024 to PS5 and Nintendo…. If true that would mean less resources to fix the current problems, and a further push into “gaming ” and away from “simming”
I fee sad for the state of affairs and the future of the franchise, and feel that WHEN a developer brings something to market which is at least as good as 2020 (it’s only a matter of time), I will be moving on…. 
Again, I suspect you’re preaching to the choir. 
Next Steps: Get MSobo to join the choir!
Or, maybe they’re working to resolve the compiler errors that they’ve been ignoring up until now. . . 
Then again, maybe it should be 
?
I have seen some improvements - a lot of the initial, at-startup stuttering and lagging is now gone, and my flying experience in free-flight mode is much smoother than at initial install.
I think they’re working on it. It’s just the appalling lack of communication that’s driving us crazy.
What say ye?
Easy, on their end this is normal, business as usual. They know people will tolerate this so they keep doing it 
I only envy the simmers who have complained here.
I can’t even start a flight. I just get an indefinitely spinning circle when add-ons are in the community folder.
The two posts by @NixonRedgrave and @FndrStrat06 above say it all.
I never bought 2024 and stayed with 2020, and with a tweak or two (BeyondATC springs to mind), I’m happy. It just…works. It’s not perfect, but what is? Use 2020 and get your enjoyment back.
I wish I hadn’t gotten excited for FS24. I was cautiously optimistic because it looked truly promising. Even though I didn’t fully buy into the hype, I still feel badly burned.
For anyone that hasn’t bought FS24 yet, don’t bother any time soon.
Edit: fixed typos.
Yes, from ‘their end’ this would seem pretty clear. I have little doubt that you are right otherwise they would be acting much differently to what they are.
From ‘my end’ this just shows how out of touch they are with their community or even if the community is maybe not really a consideration.
It is quite sad really given how well thought of they were before the launch of the new sim and how much trust their community then had in them.
Not quite sure really how this will end.
Persevered with this for several weeks now. An absolute basket case of a sim. Refuses to run for more than a few minutes before a CTD, or in some cases a crash to the boot screen. When it does run the loading times for the streamed plane interiors and scenery make it look like an early SEGA mega-drive game. Mostly disappointed. Putting me off sims big time.
My simple suggestion is to quit playing 2024 and come back to in 6 months to a year. 2020 is still a great sim so no need to put up with the frustration. You already paid for it so it will still be there in 6 months.