What light does it shed on Asobo that we replace each and every component with a 3rd party tool
ATC
Weather
Forests
Ships
Aircraft
Camera
Airports
Acceptable is only the WT avionics.
Dear Asobo start thinking on that please!
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I really couldn’t have put it much better than this…
Every now and then a flash of brilliance but you have to put up with all the rest to see it.
No thanks. Not now anyway….
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Every time I log back in to give 2024 a try something doesnt work… its really frustrating. I watch various streamers having a good time flying 2024 which leaves me even more mystified… I guess its back to 2020 for me.
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Guess where I am… 2020 of course. Tired of this lack of respect.
And I avoided the mayhem with last night update by luck, because I opened 2024 two hours earlier than release just to report a bug, closed it, and went to bed because I have a flu apparently and the wife was sick of hearing me caughing and yelling pure frustration at 2024.
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I shsre your sentiments. Lately i don’t often feel like playing and have invested many thousands in my sim rig. When yhe update FINALLY came i waited a week and jumped on in hopes at least the major bugs were addressed. I logged off so very frustrated. I feel robbed of not only my hard earned money but of my hobby. If this disastrous situation (which mirrors fs2020 release btw) is an indication of the future of flight simulator i have to say my hobby is dead. I will never buy Microsoft Flight Simulator products again. Full stop. I don’t want or need the frustration and disappointment, nor to set good money on fire in order to be frustrated and feel stolen from.
Used to be a fan of Asobo and ms but now I despise them.
Never, EVER,again.
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The saddest part, or perhaps the more concerning, is that the first post in this thread has two months. Literally, two months. And there has been almost zero improvement because the main bugs are pushed to SU2 or SU3.
While this arises several emotions (frustration, dispair, feeling taken for a fool and scammed, all that was said along this thread) it also makes us wonder why the sim was sold in that state. Of course, marketing, MS pushing Asobo, whatever, in the end the weakest part, the customer, is the one taking the damage and losses.
Evidently the sim, in its release state, wasn’t an adequate base for improvement and still needed lot of work. Perhaps that explains why almost every aspect of the game has some kind of issue, some minor and some major, like if different modules were mashed up together without proper articulation -airplanes which avionics don’t work, etc.- The fact that the updates so far have been oriented towards trying consolidating this broken base instead of fixing the widely reported bugs, sort of confirms this.
A derived question is what we can expect, which still isn’t clearly known. What can we expect, for when, and how, still is unknown. We know “they’re working on it”, but as I said before, buying a product is a contractual relation where one party pays for the product and the other one delivers the product. I guess we all can agree that the sim isn’t the expected product. Having no certainty about what, how and when can be expected is obviously a huge setback.
We don’t buy a laptop where half of the keyboard doesn’t work and we just say “alright they’re working on enabling the lower three rows and the numpad, we can use an external keyboard in the meantime”, with no certainty as when this will be fixed. The same we don’t buy a car with only two wheels turning and we gladly accept an “we’re working on the other two wheels, don’t worry” as an answer.
We all hope for the best, but buying a product shouldn’t be a “hope based” decision.
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I’ve had absolutely no problem with MS2024 whatsoever.
I didn’t buy it. 
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MSFS 2024 has never been better. I am McLovin it.
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SU1 was a big step up, but there is still a lot to fix.
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For me, flight simulation has never been better than now, with MSFS2024. Started with FS4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaeAhxmPodM&t=383s
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Same. Actually Solo Flight on the C64 before before that.
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Ive been flight simming since FS98 its been a passion of mine for most of my adult life. Its a form of escapism for me particularly what has been a pretty stessful few years.
The state of this sim has completely killed what excitement i had for this hobby. I have barely touched 2024 im sick of the way microsoft treats its customers with the ship now and we will fix it later attitude.
Particularly on xbox this attitude has prevailed on much of its 1st party titles this generation. With the release of sim update 2 beta I booted up the sim today to be treated with playdoh buildings and ugly low res scenery. Along with the mess of a marketplace that favours shovelware over quality we probably wont see the 2024 updates any time soon from the top tier developers that many of us need.
Its going to take a good 6 months to a year before this game is on the same level as 2020. Sorry for the rant guys
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Sorry late posting in this thread but this is why I will stick to MS2020 for the foreseeable future. It took me nearly 4 years to get 2020 sorted and not going to give it up easily for 2024 and the issues people are facing. It may work well for some who do basic flying but not for others who use complex addons that are not even available for 2024 yet. I keep hope in the future (2024) though and feel for those who deal with this right now.
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I jumped in to the MSFS world too with the 95’ version, and my feelings are ditto with the OP. I uninstalled the SU2 beta and didn’t even bother putting 2024 release version back on my machine. I use 2020 with the updated bing maps and the whole sim is so much better overall than 2024. 2024 really killed my enthusiasm, but now that I’m back to 2020 and studying the Maddog X MD82 .. (something I’ve been meaning to do for a few years now) flight simulation has become fun again.
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I built my first pc in years coming over from Xbox for msfs24, but so far Im just not feeling it.
I’ve not touched the latest beta but I wouldn’t say I’ve had performance issues it’s just all the silly bugs and what feels like worse implementation of things to me.
I still hold out hope that 24 will get there, it’s just a shame that the performance is so rough for many, especially Xbox it seems, makes for hard reading on these forums when so many are unhappy.
Kudos to the MSFS team for addressing the selecting airports/finding route issue. I now select arrival and departure airports from the map and it feeds right into the EFB and successfully loads into aircraft avionics and AP/LNAV functions as expected. Well done!
Depends on which. Several don’t take anything from the EFB, others do quite well. Most of the airliners do not take anything from the EFB but from Simbrief (thinking about the A320 ini v2). If there’s a way to get from the EFB please let me know. The current flow is kinda cumbersome: route in Simbrief, export the PLN, open the PLN in the online planner or in the EFB so you get the ATC to know where you are and where you’re going -even if the ATC goes nuts after a few minutes- then jump in the airplane, load the flightplan from Simbrief in the in-airplane EFB, then import it into the FMC (init → init request).
Edit: also, if you use the online planner, fuel calculation is non existant, so you have to do it in Simbrief unless you want to manually calculate fuel. Fuel calculations in the EFB are still totally broken (actually the entire loading is broken).
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Oh great - first time in 6 weeks I get past the menu and the 3d is upside down!! Then back to CTD
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