MSFS nominated for Best Sim/Strategy game at the Game Awards 2020

This is amazing. Hope the win.

Other nominees in the same genre are Gear Tactics, Desperados 3, Xcom Chimera Squad and Crusader King 3.

Xplane, P3D and DCS not in the nominations.

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Dare I state the obvious ā€¦ Xplane, P3D and DCS are not 2020 release games.

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Thanks for sharing.
Someone obviously just forgot to nominate xplane, P3D and DCS for the award (in year XXX BC). :grin:

Popcorn & Tinhat ready.

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Maybe but could also be a marketing mistake. The final version of X-Plane 11 Vulkan was released this year. On the other hand, one poster on this forum keeps referring to release candidates of FS2020 and calls the current version FS2020 rc7 as a polite reminder to MS/Asobo that it cannot yet be regarded as a final version.
:innocent: :laughing: :woman_shrugging:

P3d v5 was released this year aswell as Xplane Vulkan. But you are correct about DCS.

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What is the final version do you think?

At the end of the 10 year development period? When the road map is finished? When all the wishlist items are dealt with? When PMDG comes on board?

I agree that thereā€™s still a helluva lotta work still to do, but at what stage will it be called finished and final?

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Aboso, who just finished the gameā€™s release, received his first pot of gold in his life, so he hopes to use more advertising budget to build a ā€œstarā€ in the industry. It also brings more sales opportunities to the hardware sales industry.
I donā€™t think there is anything wrong with his winning, and I donā€™t expect him to reach the final state. For a platform to survive, it must be profitable. How can a limited consumer group appreciate?

Difficult question for me to give an opinion on when having to wear a tin hat. :slightly_smiling_face:
Other users would certainly offer many different opinions, e.g. ranging from no major bugs, compliance with advertised features to features expected from a flight simulator.
But my No, to questions 2 - 5.

All of which leaves open a more fundamental question in general. That is, should a game/program/whatever be eligible for nomination if itā€™s still in a RC stage? I have thought for years that a game should only be nominated once the developer has officially marked it as final.

Perhaps it should instead go into ā€œmost promising newcomerā€?

PS No hat of any description needed!

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But both long established titles (the ā€˜v5ā€™ is a clueā€¦) Anyway, P3D is probably not eligible as it is ā€˜not a game and must not be used for leisure purposesā€™ :joy: ā€¦ as we have all agreed.

Donā€™t get me wrong though, I have both XPlane and P3D as well as MSFS. I love all 3 - theyā€™re just good at different things.

As GridRisen rightly said it is amazing that a (non-shooting) flight sim should get so much publicity. And I hope it wins too (but, Iā€™m biasedā€¦)

:laughing: :+1:

We will see how the thread develops. :slightly_smiling_face:
Got to go to work now. Bye for now.

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One definition might be the day MS/Asobo cease support.

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A possible award for pushing out a unready bug filled game, just goes to show how low the bar is set.

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As good as the game is in some areasā€¦they donā€™t really deserve to win anything considering the state of the game, their questionable marketing practices, graphical downgrading and deletion of critical posts in their forum.

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The sim really deserves to win considering the breath of ambition, the extent of the scale of achievement, the incredible graphics that are consistently optimised and improved every patch, the improving performance, the developers commitment to the genre and the open and transparent way they communicate regularly with the community.

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So, best Sim/Strategy game, and MSFS is going up against: Crusader Kings III, Desparado III, Gear Tactics, and XCOM. Lol. The only sim in this category isā€¦ MSFSā€¦

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Hmm, combining sims and strategy games is weird. :smiley:

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Well, I suppose trying to avoid running over the tugs and ramp guys on the ground requires some strategyā€¦

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Sorry, but letā€™s say all of your previous statements were true - what would forum procedure (which, by the way, explicitly allows any negative criticism as long as it is done so constructively) have to do with the actual ā€˜gameā€™ portion of ā€˜Game Awards 2020ā€™ ?

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MSFS may have bugs and issues, but what it has is the most incredible simulation of the entire ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  planet and its weather ever developed for consumer-grade software. Theyā€™ve incorporated technologies in ways that have never been combined before for a game. Via cloud streaming, theyā€™ve created the largest (by FAR) data set for a video game in the history of gaming. And even taking into account current graphical issues, it has by a large margin the highest fidelity and resolution graphics in any flight simulator ever. In terms of visuals and recreation of the world, it puts multi-million dollar commercial flight sims used to train real pilots to shame. Nothing even comes close

Was it released way before it was ready for prime time? Oh yeah. We can likely thank the marketing and finance departments at MS for that. There are graphical issues. It has performance issues. Weather (very important for a flight sim) only works sporadically and has many associated issues. The planes are incomplete. Flight models need work. Avionics are incomplete, and function questionably at times. There are a lot of CTD issues. Thereā€™s a long laundry list of things wrong with this title and a lot still missing or incomplete. In the end, another 6-12 months of dev time in beta before release would have likely solved many of those issues. But despite those issues, itā€™s still an incredibly fun sim.

Whatever the whiny, entitled, ā€œthere are 6 buttons that donā€™t work on my plane of choiceā€™s FMS therefore this game is unplayableā€ crowd bellyache about, Microsoft and Asobo have created something thatā€™s way beyond the scope and levels of ambition of anything thatā€™s come before it. This is literally on the scale of George Lucas & Co inventing computer controlled camera systems for the creation of special effects for Star Wars. It has the potential to be a revolutionary, game-changing paradigm for gaming just like the camera control systems was a giant leap in filmmaking and became industry standard over time. Saying MSFS doesnā€™t deserve and award for their acheivement due to bugs and issues is like saying Lucas & Co didnā€™t deserve the multitudes of awards they got for revolutionizing special effects because the dialog in the movie was terrible and cringeworthy.

So do they deserve an award? Oh yeah. It doesnā€™t make this game perfect or even complete for that matter. Itā€™s for the recognition of what Asobo - a company with zero experience in flight sim dev (but backed by MS $$$) - managed to pull off. And this is only the beginning. It will have itā€™s ups and downs, but it only gets better from here.

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