My install is completely missing this Helicopter… It shows the image in the career mode, but no name (just missing data). Fresh install didn’t help. Verify files didn’t help… Any ideas?
not sure if a fresh install is deleting cache files -probably you have luck with delting them.
The cyclic is nuts on this one!
Just noticed while flying forward that I have my thumb at like 30-40 Degrees to the right.
That means it has the same ”bug” that I just yesterday discovered in the cowan h130 and that is very present in the nemeth s300 and the wasp, that the cyclic is twisted to one direction.
Well, that is NOT the case here!
If it was then nose up should be down and to the left, but its down and to the RIGHT!!
So nose down and up is both to the right, rather close to each other even, and between them should be tilt/lean to the right ( pushing right on cyclic) but no, in a hover that is hard yaw to the left!
Crazy! Could somebody just please make a FM in this game that actually behaves like it should!
While I absolutely agree with you on the Nemeth S300, I cannot confirm this for the Asobo H125. I did some quick joystick movements forward and backward and could not find any significant yaw movement. You do need to counter the translating force of the tail rotor in hover and cruise by putting in some right cyclic, but this is not very pronounced in my setup.
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You have stated live on stream that this aircraft has no trim.
So let me add a suggestion. Add a simulated trim for us so we can trim the helicopter anyway. My gear is not helicopter gear and the minutia control requires a trim.
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Martial Bossard is being a hypocrite. The actual R66 doesn’t have trim either. But in the sim it does. Plus, “Force Trim Release” is actually on the in-game H125 cyclic stick artwork. Either fix the trim or take it out of the artwork and remove it from the Robinson.
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It doesn’t? I’m pretty sure I’ve used it in XP 12.
Actually funny enough, I found that using VR controllers for the cyclic is actually quite bang on: there’s no feeling of force and it’s not tiring.
In the event that an AFCS is never implemented, this is going to be my workaround so my arm doesn’t get sore.
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Lazy answer and frankly just lazy of them in general. They can flip a value in one of the cfg files and provide trim. Screw it, I’ll figure out the option and create my own mod.
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That is an advantage of being on a PC. With the XBOX I am married to their whims.
X-Plane models have trim because that is the most realistic and fairest way to model the helicopter for the 99% of users with center-sprung sticks.
Asobo knows this. That’s why their Guimbal has force trim release, a feature found in no actual Guimbal. More selective hypocracy.
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“This helicopter doesn’t have any trim so I was a bit surprised to read that…”
I appreciate the fact they get in front of us and try to do some explaining but come on Asobo…
Same with the ground effect going nuts in helipads…no need to investigate anything, it is the same bug you guys had in 2020 and proof that little effort was put into testing helos for this release.
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I found mentions of trim in a POH.
Hat trim, not Force Trim. But Force Trim is available for it in the game. A single “trim” button is an option for helicopters equipped with HeliSAS, an expensive option that not all R44s and R66s have. And “ours” in the game does not have HeliSAS, yet it generously has both force trim and directional trim—both cases unrealistic.
You mentioned X-Plane. Even the R22 has trim in X-Plane. That’s because it is needed in order to be controllable. The real helicopter neither has it nor needs it. For the simulated one, trim (force or hat) is essential.
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Short answer: Because the H125 does not have trim. IRL or in the sim.
Short Reply: Neither does the R66. Like the H125, it is optional. So be consistent. Yet they are not. Here is what is MORE ridiculous about their commitment to realism, users be darned: Their H125 artwork has an FTR button on the stick, yet no working force trim. Their R66 does not have HeliSAS yet has both directional trim and force trim. It’s just not defensible from a desire for realism.
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To be fair
- That button that’s labelled “force trim release” is actually the Nav Source selector when no AFCS system is installed
- The AFCS Release button should be a spare as well.
- The Beep “Trim switch” 4-way switch should be VHF Radio control (or a mirror if installed).
If you’re not gonna put an AFCS in the plane, then at least label the switches accordingly.
You can create force trim with a copy and paste just like the Hype 145/160 with Spad.next. And that’s the least of its tricks.
Instead of adding a fake trim, Asobo studious should improve their assistance controls options. Asobo needs to keep in mind that the average user tends to have a pretty basic joystick. Also what is perplexing is that the game has AI auto trim under piloting assistance, but that should also apply to helicopters but it does not.