[MSFS2024] Cessna 208 B Grand Caravan EX

it was “fixed” in exactly the same manner that the PC-12’s pressurization/hypoxia bug was “fixed” — which is to say, it wasn’t fixed at all.

It was said to be fixed but in practice it wasn’t fixed. To be honest, the SU2 patch notes contained several of such records, but I can’t recall them from the top of my head. I know the Caravan autopilot was one such instance.

So let’s hope SU3 does actually fix it.

Edit: Oh yes, as @speedwayst4r said it before me, the Pilatus PC-12 cabin pressurization bug was another such thing. Supposedly fixed by SU2, yet it wasn’t at all. Let’s have another go in SU3.

If this fix in SU2
Adjusted autopilot PID’s to fix Dutch roll motion when on autopilot

was in response to this bug:

I’d suggest adding to the bug topic mentioning that the issue is still present in whatever build # you may be running on.

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One just has to take a look at the conversation you linked and can see that the issue is still there. I will wait for SU3 now (hopefully just a few more weeks) to see if it fixes this bug or not, and report it afterwards.

if the devs are still struggling to fix this issue they might consider casting an eye over the 1-line config file edit posted by a community member in the thread you linked which completely resolves the problem.

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Someone who flies a C208 would be useful here to inform us whether those AP numbers lead to realistic behaviour or not. You could make it overly aggressive, and unrealistic.

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Wouldn’t mind some feedback and I will gladly adjust my mod (you can get it on flightsim.to) but Im a 100% sure it is much more realistic than the constant wobling :slight_smile:

I watched some videos about caravans flying on AP and they were pretty snappy and precise in the turns, so I feel my numbers are in the ballpark.
But any feedback is welcome.

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The C208B is 100% better now than it was on initial release. I am using the C208B in Career Mode and I’m using Sim Rate and Autopilot to make the missions go by faster. Back in November you couldn’t have autopilot AND Sim Rate on past Sim Rate 2 due to Dutch Roll amplifying until the plane was in danger of ripping a wing. Now, I can have Sim Rate +3 with autopilot on and all I see is a gentle Dutch Roll SOMETIMES. Other times the AP is holding the plane perfectly level as far as roll is concerned. Back in November the severity of the Dutch Roll was based on the relative wind and now it seems the relative wind determines whether you get level wings in flight or gentle Dutch Roll.

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When I got into the C208B (finally) for my cargo company, I noticed a small left rolling tendency which I fixed with a SMALL adjustment to the aileron trim in the plane. Since doing that, I haven’t had to set it again so apparently the trim setting carries over from one flight to the next?

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Which is weird because in coordinated flight, the relative wind is always right on the nose.

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Yes but the turbulence is not isotropic, so the effect to the AP ability to hold steady may be different.

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I misspoke. What I was TRYING to say was the severity of the Dutch Roll depended on the prevailing wind’s relative bearing. A wind 7 degrees off your intended course gave you a much different Dutch Roll severity than, say, a wind 15 degrees off your course.

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I noticed in this Caravan it’s possible to start and fly with both fuel tank selectors to off. No warning or engine shutting down.

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With selectors off there is still fuel present in the reservoir- if it runs indefinitely that’s not correct but if it still runs for a minute or two before dying that’s not necessarily incorrect behavior. There should absolutely be a warning chime going off when both selectors are off and the avionics are on though.

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I noticed the fuel selectors being off recently. Normally I fly the Black Square where the fuel selectors are in the off position before start. The Asobo has the fuel selectors standard in the On position where I made the mistake of switching them to off which gave zero problems. Today I flew from Denver to Leadville, at least a half an hour of airtime and a lot of climbing. Shutting the Cessna again, my mistake, fuel selectors were in the off position. Checking again tomorrow but for now looks like a bug.

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Just ran into this bug on a career flight. Tried everything in this thread. Turning 90 deg, made sure everything was off (including starter, which ctrl+e did not have off for some reason). Fuel cutoff is on and the prop is still going. Unfortunately you can’t throw the engine cowling on like you can for the Vision Jet.

When you reduce the propeller pitch, why does the torque go over the red line?

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That doesn’t sound right. Just to clarify- you are pushing the prop lever forward and getting a torque increase?

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No, pulling right back to zero.

So it sounds like what you are describing is correct behavior. Assuming a constant power setting, pulling the prop RPM lever back increases pitch (blade angle) which increases drag resistance on the prop (which reduces RPM) and that is “felt” by the engine as increased torque.