[MSFS2024] Magni Gyro M-24 Orion

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On a scale of 1-10 (with 10 being best), how do you rate the Flight Model and Aircraft Systems?
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On a scale of 1-10 (with 10 being best), how do you rate the Interior and Exterior Graphics?
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On a scale of 1-10 (with 10 being best), how do you rate the Audio and Aircraft Sounds?
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On a scale of 1-10 (with 10 being best), how do you rate your Overall Enjoyment of this aircraft?
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Thanks,
MSFS Team

I’ll defer to the judgement of an actual autogyro pilot on the behavior (and I would be very interested to know), but I enjoy this this thing quite a bit and hope it is the precursor to more, larger autogyros in the future.

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I’m also really enjoying it and now looking for YouTube videos on how these things fly in real life. One thing I’m not sure about is the pre-rotator. What it does. And also how to bind it. I don’t see a similar named control in the settings.

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I’m a real world autogyro (and fixed wing) pilot. I love that Asobo/Microsoft have included a gyro in FS2024! The pre-rotator is used at the commencement of take-off; it connects the engine to the rotor to spin it up to around 200 rotor rpm. Once that speed is reached the pre-rotator is disconnected, the stick pulled full back and full power added. The forward motion of the gyro into the airflow then causes the rotor to accelerate (it is no longer connected to the engine once the pre-rotator is released) and it will become airborne somewhere around 280 RPM, depending on weight. It’s essential then to get the stick forward to fly level in ground effect until around 60 kts is achieved, when you can then climb away.

As to how it handles, I’m still having sim issues so cannot comment fairly at the moment. OK, is my opinion so far; the rotor RPM seems way more variable than it is in real life.

I too have have been unable so far to bind a key or joystick button to the pre-rotator.

And if you want to see some of my real-world videos, have a look on YouTube for ā€˜StuWithAView’.

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This Gyro is very very very good. I would say I’m not surprised at all being this a Bluemesh product.
The flight model is really good, ground effect could be tweaked a little but just minor things.
The way it flies is exactly how a gyro flies, it is very stable.
I agree with Stu the rotor RPMs are a little nervous.

It’s the perfect aircraft for IFR, if we think about IFR as ā€œI follow roadsā€ā€¦

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Cool! Thank you for that information and YouTube channel (subscribed!). It’s such a fun aircraft to take advantage of the improved low level scenery.

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We really need to know what binding to use for the pre-rotator, other than that this thing is a blast.

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The pre-rotator uses the COWL FLAPS command, it is explained in the manual.

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Where can I find the manual?

A bug I’ve found is that MSFS ATC treats it as a helicopter and rather than runway clearances assigns you to helipads.

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Here: Aircraft Manuals - Microsoft Flight Simulator
You can report the bug about the aircraft being identified as a helicopter in the bug reporting section.
cheers!

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Oh wow. How did I not know about those! Thanks.

I was having a lot of fun with the gyro and glad to see it included. My only problem is: While cruising at 3,000 feet at about 75 knots with good rpm, the gyro suddenly flipped upside down, rotor rpm decayed and all control was lost. I was never able to recover.

I’ve had this happen with helicopter, but with an engine powered rotor I was able to regain control. I don’t have any custom installations. Has anyone else run into this?

This little thing is really really good !
In the manual it’s showing an onboard tablet. I can’t find a clickspot to show it inside. Anyone managed to find the tablet?

I haven’t. Would love for it to have that.

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It was for the FS2020 version. As we have now the included EFB, i’ll directly add it to the panel in next update.

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I built and flew a VW powered Benson Gyrocopter kit back in the early '80s, so have experience with older less sophisticated models with marginal engine power.

I found the Magni to be fun to fly, with a somewhat accurate flight model in normal situations. Out of curiosity I have tried to induce some situations where you would be in real trouble in a gyroplane, such as sustained negative G bunts (nose overs) which should induce destructive rotor flap, similar to ā€œmast bumpā€ in helicopters that use simple teeter totter rotors heads, such as the Robinson (particularly at high speeds in turbulence). So far I’ve not been able to induce that killer situation.

It does reproduce getting behind the power curve in low slow flight, using too much back stick, but nowhere near as badly as the old Bensons could behave.

However, yesterday I was flying at 5,000 ft and decided to kill the engine and see how far I could ā€œglideā€. I could not get the motor to actually stop, as the prop was still turning and appeared to be freewheeling. Meh, I thought that was just a graphical thing. But then I suddenly went into an uncontrollable flat spin, still with plenty of rotor speed. Gyros, at least in my experience do not stall or flat spin. Opposite rudder and full down cyclic made no meaningful difference. The Magni was all over the place with nonsensical attitudes and I crashed.

I’m wondering if the flight model is still based on something like a fixed wing Cub, as was done in an earlier and not very good 3rd party Gyro from MS2020.

Edit: I’ll try the same scenario today, only will include and engine restart, to see if the greater rudder authority from the prop wash will enable recovery…even though it looks to me an unrealistic situation. I’d be interested to hear from those who fly more modern designs.

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Hands down my favourite plane in MSFS2024. I just wish a variant with the posh Dynon Skyview or similar was available too. Would cheerfully pay for that!

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I too owned a Benson, but mine had the Mc 90 HP engine. The power off on the Magni is no where near what it was like on the Benson. I had an engine failure in the Benson and it was almost a nice experience. Very nose down until the flare.

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There are still a few McCulloch engines around here in Australia I believe, though they could be temperamental in the heat here in Oz. The Benson dealer in Melbourne used one back in the day and he could put on quite a display at airshows.

Lord, I remember one time at Joe Drage’s Air Museum airstrip in Wodonga, when one wouldn’t get started. Some guy was pointing out the prop to his son and how the engine was not powering the rotor… as the owner was flipping the prop over (silly man). Anyway, it suddenly roared to life…and took off this bloke’s index finger! We all had what we call in Oz an ā€œEmu Paradeā€ to try and find the the severed digit, which surprisingly we did and I believe it was re-attached at the local hospital. One of the stranger Gyro incidents I have witnessed.

Hello,
I have a question about MSFS2024 and flying the magni m24:
During the landing phase, with the engine at idle, I can’t maintain a stable descent speed of 55 knots. Any input on the stick significantly increases or decreases the speed, making it impossible to stabilize. In other flight phases, there’s no issue. I’m using a Thrustmaster Sidestick joystick.

So, I’m wondering if it’s a joystick configuration issue or if it’s due to the flight profile modeling of the Magni M24.
What’s your opinion?

Thank you for your help.