[MSFS2024] Zlin Aviation Savage Norden

[kaha300d]

@DigitalJonx

Therefore, all our manuals are written for any scenario the future may hold.

I understand!

[Uzura2203]

Lots of liveries aren’t loading in properly for me with the Norden now, just partial colours. On SU2.

[TK421Posted]

I am attempting to report the same issue but I’m not sure that I’m adequately making the point:
https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/polls-microsoft-flight-simulator-2024-sim-update-2-feedback/720772/519?u=tk421posted

[Saltash53]

Go to the options on the notebook down to the left. You get three or four livery variants to choose from.

[FndrStrat06]

Well I learned the Norden has more options than I thought. I had no idea the notebook was there!

[SmotheryVase665]

Hi @TK421Posted
FYI, A bug topic has been created here:

Zlin Savage Norden - Liveries are broken in SU2

ISSUE DESCRIPTION Description of the issue: Zlin Savage Norden liveries don’t display properly in MSFS2024 SU2. They are missing accent colours and other paint details If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue: Zlin Savage Norden [PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue? Yes FREQUENCY OF ISSUE How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)? Every time. REPRODUCTIO…

I’ve moved your post from the feedback thread into the bug topic. You may want to add your vote to that topic.

[Sonicviz]

Never mind, 10 Characters

[DivineSoma]

July 2025, and we still have prop wake in the cockpit in VR.

Same with the Draco.

Would it ber too much to ask to get this fixed? That’s rhetorical btw. We all know it is too much to ask.

[TundraKeks22440]

What is prop wake ?

[CptnDoppie]

Came here looking to see if I was the only one experiencing this.

Decided to take this one out for a spin, and ended up really disliking it - purely because of the fact that I can’t seem to trim the thing out at all.

No combination of power or trim settings lets me settle this plane in nice level flight. Up and down like a yoyo. Even the autopilot struggles in Alt Hold mode. Just a very unpleasant experience.

I don’t know. Everyone seems to like it, so maybe it’s me

[NelsonMoontz]

@DigitalJonx would be great if you consider simplifying choosing the liveries. Now it’s a little bit confusing. For example If you choose crimson livery you need to turn on the notepad and change it every time for livery number 1. Otherwise the plane is white. Maybe saving the last setting would be fine. It’s weird to do walk around white plane and then change the livery after you get inside the plane

[Editer]

I feel like the sub-livery setting used to be saved, and one of the SUs broke it. I had a nice “Seahawks” color set livery I had as my default and I’m almost sure at release it would be there whenever I picked the Norden, but after an SU I had to go into the tablet to select the variation every time as the base “black” underlying scheme would be there when I first loaded the plane.

[AlphaHotel1043]

Definately not just you. The aircraft is experiencing an extreme pitch up moment whenever flaps are extended by one notch from the present flap setting. Beyond the first notch of flaps, the nose up force is strong enough that the aircraft runs out of nose down trim authority to counteract it. (Basically, if you go to the second notch of flaps and beyond, you’ll max out the nose down trim, but still have a net nose up force you’ll have to use forward stick to counteract.)

As a workaround, you can fly your approaches with flaps set to the first notch/TO position (20°) and use an approach speed of 55 to 60 kts. That will (just barely) give you enough trim authroity to trim for the approach attitude - though it will also result in a longer landing roll.

I put in a bug report on the issue:

Zlin Savage Norden extreme pitch up momment with flap extension

Using the template below will greatly help the team reproduce the issue and ease the process of fixing it. Before posting, search for an existing report. If you are not sure it’s a bug, please first report in User Support Hub. 3 tags are required - add them in the tag section next to the title above: One for iteration (msfs-2020 or msfs-2024) One for platform (ms-store, steam, xbox , or xcloud) One for aircraft (start typing in your aircraft name in the tag section and pick correct op…

[FndrStrat06]

Yes!! I think this state saving broke at some point, which made me think the liveries themselves were broken.

[JockoFlocko]

I picked this up for FS2020 and it’s a fantastic aircraft for the price I paid (12.99 Canadian) I love the fact that you can extend the slats via the air brake axis separate from the main flaps axis. It gives you a wide variety of options for takeoff and landings as well as stability at slow speeds. I also really like the “analog tank” style digital gauges on the left and right of G3X avionics. Overall it’s among some of best “super cub” style aircraft I’ve flown in FS 2020.

[Editer]

When you upgrade to 2024 you’ll be even more delighted with it, as 24’s flight modeling feels more authentic.

[SentientBasher0]

The avionics display is very low brightness, in daytime its difficult to read most of time

Otherwise really fun aircraft, really enjoy this one

[Pacific181]

@Editer

When you upgrade to 2024 you’ll be even more delighted with it

In msfs 2024 I barely cannot take off without a “near accident “ . It has a very , very strong tendeny to turn to the left, uncontrollably !!

That’s not the case in msfs 2020. In msfs 2024 I put that plane aside as a nice toy for children(?), along with many other original 2020 planes .

Believe me, I know how to fly taildraggers. Owned a Bücker 181 for 35 years, have about 2000 hrs IR on tail draggers.