Hi, I’m currently an Xbox user and I really want to make the jump to pc for Christmas. Just need some feedback for this potential build. Use cases: Msfs 2024 predominately study level airliners such as the pmdg 777, the upcoming fbw a380 and the fenix a320. I’d also want to install plenty of scenery addons and use vatsim aswell as traffic injectors, gsx etc. I’d also play modded gta v, use blender and ue5 potentially pcvr aswell. I mainly want to get good fps and I don’t mind playing at 1080p as that is the resolution of the monitor i have, would still be nice to be future-proof though. These are the specs:
One last thing with transitioning from Xbox to pc ( I currently have game pass ultimate), I’ll switch over straight to the new sim not 2020 so will my addons transfer from xbox 2020 to pc 2024 as long as i sign in on the same microsoft account.
Sorry this was so long, just rather be thorough then have to write many different posts.
Hard to say how many and which resources 2024 opens up vs how much they add on top of those resources to determine how much GPU clocks vs physical vram comes into play. Likely any higher card will come out for the better. Personally I’d always rather stretch up in budget to the next tier in GPU and shed any and all unnecessary accessories or decorations first to do it. Big card cheap case. And you’ll likely outgrow 1080 with complex aircraft. You’re probably more than fine for 1440 if not 4k with some concessions.
Christmas time you’re probably going to see a shift in GPU prices as the newest stuff begins to release, but FS being kept to mainstream standards won’t really leave any current quality architecture stranded, they’re not going for the next crysis
Thanks for the response, so you think the price of the 4070 super will drop by christmas due to the release of the 50 series? If so by how much do you reckon. Can’t really go for any better of a gpu as i’ve already selected one of the cheapest cases and other accs.
That setup would do fine currently at 1080p, but I would consider some AMD GPU alternatives. The 7900GRE performs a bit better on average than the 4070 Super, and would save you about $50 based on current prices. There’s also the 7800XT, which would give up a small bit of performance but save you $100. I have the 7800XT and it runs fine at 4k with a mix of medium to ultra settings, averaging upper 50’s and even holding over 45fps at busy airports. Unfortunately there isn’t a much direct comparison of these cards for the sim, and my thoughts are just an educated guess on what to expect. You’ll want to do some of your own research if you wish to consider other options.
To me, there isn’t much to be gained visually with many settings, so I don’t run basic presets like most reviewers. For example, I have trees set to medium because there is a noticable difference compared to low, but setting to high or ultra causes a large performance hit while not looking much better. Ambient Occlusion is another big resource hog of which running on low or medium is fine to me. Setting it to ultra can cause a good 5fps hit over medium.
This Tech Powerup 4070 Super listing includes a relative performance chart. Granted, it’s just giving you average results across multiple games and resolutions, but it’s a good starting baseline if you get to researching options.
Thanks for the response, I am going to check this out now. However one thing i was looking at with the nvidea gpus is the dlss and frame generation tech so not sure. Do you know anything about the transfer of addons from the xbox version msfs 2020 to pc version msfs 2024?
Nvidia is awesome with their software, making things like DLSS compatible with so many different games and it just works. AMD no so much. However, the hardware is there, if the games properly utilize it in the code it should be every bit as good. I would of thought cards like the 7900xtx would outrun everything based on specs. Being that the XBSX is all AMD CPU/GPU you’d think they’d be the favorite. 2024 may make more use of AMD GPU capabilities.
Yes I’m going to look into some of the amd gpu options, however i have seen very big frame rate improvements with the 4070super with dlss on. Do you think that amd is the better option?
Possibly, but certainly not down to where they should actually be. If the rumours are true (Source: Google), Nvidia is scaling back production of 40 series, which could actually make prices higher. If you’re using frame gen, I can’t see there being that much difference between 4070 and 4070 Super. Do you play other games or just MSFS?
Won’t know until we see what they do with 2024. 2020 was developed before all this stuff was available yet, it started well before the current generation XB was fully sorted. Now they’re going again with using all the current-generation hardware, without even having the next generation of ‘super cards’, this will be quite the unique moment-in-time for utilizing everything pretty much everyone already has. FG is a software enhancement, and AMD has their own. But you want the best core FPS you can get first. At 1080p any of these cards are going to be ludicrous FPS, if anything way under-utilized. You have plenty of time to save a bit more for a higher GPU, 4070ti super/4080s/7900xtx. Couple-'three hundred bucks.
Yes, however i don’t mind the system being overkill as i will eventually upgrade my moniter to 4k anyway, just for the timebeing this is about as much as i can get price-wise so the 4070 super is probably my limit. I just want to make sure that it will be able to run the new sim at good frames at 1080 and 4k/1440p with vatsim, gsx, airport scenery addons etc. Also i want it to last for at least 3-4 years.
That 7900GRE may not be a bad choice if they give some more AMD love in 2024, maybe a consideration unless bouncing up to the 4070ti super. I run a 4080s so I’m not in a new GPU fight at the moment. I was literally standing with a 7900xtx in-hand when I changed my mind. Really curious if 2024 coding gives the AMD GPU’s a big boost.
The way Nvidia is likely to work with new 50 series cards are on the horizon is to milk all the 40XX supers as they usually don’t start with the code until wave two hits with the new super editions of 50 series cards. In theory, you’d think they would build 2024 around AMD architecture, and AMD is much more aggressive with pricing.
My take would probably be 7900GRE over 4070 super, then 4070ti S then up to 4080s vs 7900xtx, which will be the REAL scrappy battle for 2024. The 7900xtx VRAM advantage has yet to be exploited by FS.
Just checked the 7900gre it is slightly better priced than the 4070 super, would i be at a disadvantage without frame generation or will i be just fine. I’ve also just learnt about loseless scaling which I think works with amd gpus? Not really sure. but I think it can dramatically improve fps
Before buying anything, please wait until MSFS 2024 is released. None of us know how it will perform on different types of hardware. Surely a 4070 will be much better than for example a 3060. But especially with the CPUs it will be very interesting how it will perform on CPUs with a lot of cores vs. CPUs with less cores but higher performance per core etc etc etc. Will the cache on those CPUs still make such a difference? Will it eat RAM for breakfast? How will it handle VRAM?
Christmas might even be a bit close to release as there will surely be a lot of in-depth comparisons popping up everywhere over the weeks following the release and updates within the first months might change things a bit here and there.
Regarding your current Marketplace add-ons I’d closely watch what Microsoft is going to say about that (and nobody else). That would be a great question to submit for one of the next dev streams when they are ready to talk more about MSFS 2024.
I hope it doesn’t matter if you change from Xbox to PC (Store) but I’d not be so optimistic about going from Xbox to PC (Steam).
Okay, yeah sounds about right it probably is best to wait but isn’t it supposed to peform better than 2020 anyway so surely i could look for a system that can run 2020 well than 2024 should be a given? I sort of don’t want to watch any benchmark videos as i don’t want to spoil the fun of the game before i get it on chritmas day! But i will watch the dev streams to hopefully get some insight. Regarding the marketplace addons i will do what you said thanks! Jack
Sure, getting a system that runs MSFS 2020 pretty well will most probably not disappoint you regarding MSFS 2024. But there is no guarantee. My point is more about that you might miss out by picking the “wrong” CPU. “Wrong” as in a different one with a similar price might get you less stutter, more FPS.
don’t want to watch any benchmark videos as i don’t want to spoil the fun of the game before i get it on chritmas day
I can totally understand that Also, it feels a bit like lottery, whatever we pick most of us won’t win
Yea I understand do you think it could be worth dropping the super for a regular and maybe getting a ryzen 9 7900x3d? because i’d be using frame gen anyway?
Also, it feels a bit like lottery, whatever we pick most of us won’t win 