New Propeller | CFD | Soft Body Simulation - Aircraft List

A few things:

Bunch of new planes/helis to add to the CFD list from SU11. Not sure about NPS/SBS for these or any of the other SU11 vehicles.

  • Airbus A310-300
  • Bell model 407
  • Curtiss JN-4 Jenny
  • Douglas DC-3
  • DG Aviation DG-1001E neo
  • DG Aviation LS8-18
  • Grumman G-21A Goose
  • Guimbal Cabri G2

Another thing I’ve noticed is that with mods that enable CFD (e.g., the G36), the CFD visualization doesn’t work – maybe this is more on the mod makers’ ends than Asobo’s? This was me being dumb about mod installation – the visualization works on every CFD-enabled mod I’ve tried.

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Thanks, all listed now

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How do you know the A310 and the other planes other than helicopters have CFD?

Bind a key to the CFD visualization toggle, load the plane, try it! If it works, CFD is going.

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I personally have not tested the A310 so i can only assume it confirmed CFD by turn on aerodynamic visualizer.

the visualizer can be turned on for every aircraft, but if they are actually using the CFD simulation for the flightmodel is another question, so maybe I should unlist the airplanes until we get a better confirmation?

Edit: not true, visualizer only works for aircraft with activated CFD from developer

But the Helicopters definitely using the CFD, otherwise they wouldn’t fly :smiley:

You sure? At least on my end it won’t work (via the new toggle) for any of the older planes unless they were on the list or had the correct mod installed – you don’t have to use dev mode to see the visualizations anymore.

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Ah no sorry, I rewatched the feature discovery series, they said:

‘‘the CFD will be available for aircraft creators, any existing aircraft using the modern flightmodel can be easily ported over without any additional tweaking’’

So the CFD visualization tool should only work for aircraft which got CFD activated by the developer.

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would the Wright be considered ‘soft body’? the wings warp instead of having ailerons

I think this is just the normal wing flex.
But it’s still possible that it has softbody simulation. Sadly so far no developer mentioned this feature besides Asobo for the Cessna.

I played a little with CFD visualization this weekend and found some interesting things. If you turn on the CFD visualization in the Assistances menu, it will show only to those planes in which it was enabled by default by the developer.

If you go to the developer mode in the game and open the CFD menu, it gives you the options of playing with CFD in general. For those planes without CFD, you can actually turn it on in this menu, which enables you to visualize, and then there is another option that allows you to feed that CFD simulation into the flight model. It means, you can add CFD simulation to any plane of the game (except those that are encrypted), even though the developer may not have enabled it by default. You can definitely tell there’s a change to the airplane behavior, but as I’m not a professional pilot, I can’t tell it is more or less realistic. It is cool to play with, though.

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The DC Designs Stearman should now be added to this list. The update that came out on the 14th added the propeller physics and CFD

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I heard from a Fenix team member on their Discord that the Fenix uses certain elements of the CFD as well. Most probably the ground effect simulation. It should be added to the list then right?

You can actually check this, is it possible to enable the CFD visualization in the assitance menu for the Fenix? (important: not in Dev mode!)

I don’t own the Fenix but they officially confirmed it so there is no need to test it

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Ok I listed it for now, it’s just weird they don’t list it as an feature anywhere.
I don’t own the plane, but maybe somebody else from the Forum can confirm it later on.

Thanks for the info :slight_smile:

Yeah it’s strange. When I asked in their Discord they happily replied they were using it so why not list it under features?

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I own the Fenix A320 and checked here on my side. Here are my findings:

  • CFD visualization can’t be enabled without being in the Dev menu. Opening the Assistance options shows me a “Volocopter” profile, and doesn’t allow me to change anything (different from any other plane I’ve seen). Using the keyboard binding to toggle CFD also doesn’t do anything.

  • Opening the CFD menu from the developer options, it shows me the CFD simulation off by default. In my observations with other planes with confirmation that support / doesn’t support CFD simulation, if this is off by default, then it means it doesn’t use CFD simulation and wasn’t developed specifically for this use case.

I’m not saying that Fenix is lying when they say their simulation uses certain aspects of CFD, they know their product much better than I can. But maybe they meant something different.

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You can unlock assistances menu by removing line in flight_model.cfg

disable_assistances=1

Thank you very much for your research! I unlisted the Fenix, as you said maybe they meant something different, ‘‘using certain elements of the CFD’’ can actually mean anything. As long as they don’t confirm full CFD integration I wont list them here.

Once again thank you for your help :slight_smile:

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