I almost bought JustSim’s NG version in last week’s Marketplace sale — glad I didn’t! Release offer of 15% off, valid for two weeks. Native versions for both FS2020 and 2024.
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Does it install into both sims or you need to purchase both versions separately?
I would imagine one purchase gets you both versions (however they are separate as the 2024 version is native). You’d have to clarify with the dev on that one…
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I bought the 2024 version on Orbx and there’s a possibility to obtain the 2020 version for free.
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How is performance on your ends? I have a pretty good pc but the fps is very sluggish and it uses a lot of vram.
I haven’t had time to test it out yet. Will report tomorrow.
Looks nice but craters frame rate in VR. Unusable.
Hey guys,
First of all, thanks for your support!
If you experience any performance issues, please write directly to our support email ( support@atelic.eu ) with your hardware specs, or join our Discord for assistance.
And to confirm - if you purchase either the MSFS 2020 or 2024 version, you automatically get access to the other one for free.
Dalibor
Atelic
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Thank you for the response. I have emailed your support with my spec and issues.
Performance is really bad for me as well after arriving from a short flight from Frankfurt. Less than 10fps, with 13900K, 64GB RAM and RTX4080. Have not experienced it with other airports since SU3, so am sure it is something than can quickly be fixed.
When loading directly into ELLX there are no significant performance issues initially.
I have submitted a ticket in the Atelic Discord.
The airport itself looks great. Can highly recommend it once it runs smoothly.
Wonderful airport, and at least on my PC in MSFS 2020, the performance is also good. However, I have a very powerful PC.
For me, one of the most beautiful airports I’ve seen in recent months. Great work!
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Having bought it last night, I echo LukG8843’s comments above. A superb airport, with very few weak points (if I HAD to complain, it would be about the default cars landside, and perhaps the low number of peripheral buildings with parallax interiors).
I’m also not seeing any performance degradation, clocking in with an average of around 80fps. Like LukG, I have a high-end PC but some reports of terrible performance are from users with fairly similar hardware. Weird!
Are you running it in 2020 or 2024? Seems like folks running it in 2024 are struggling but in 2020 it runs fine.
Sorry, forgot to mention… 2024.
Copy of the email I sent Atelic:
“I have recently purchased your ELLX airport.
The detail and graphics are great. However I do only fly in VR and
unfortunately the frame rate tanks considerably as soon as I enter VR.
My specs are: 9800x3d 64KB RAM RTX 4070 ti super (16GB VRAM) Quest 3
running Virtual Desktop.
I can get a rock steady 72 fps with SSW at airports like inBuilds
Heathrow and I have even more overhead available at less detailed
airports. With ELLX however it is a different story and my fps goes down
to sub 50 fps with stutters galore.
Any help would be appreciated as the airport doesn’t appear to be
configurable via the Contrail App.”
All I got back was a request to send my settings. There is clearly nothing wrong with my settings as they work great with other very detailed airports. I feel they are just kicking the can down the road and I’m contacting Contrail to ask for a refund.
To me, this sounds like the usual VRAM problem in MSFS 2024. As long as the VRAM remains within limits, performance is good. Above that, it’s disastrous. I experience this particularly with the 2024 version of Inibuilds EGLL. I think it also depends on which airport you took off from. If you start at a detailed airport, the VRAM will be full by the time you arrive in Luxembourg. I would be interested to know whether those who have described the problem here also experience such poor performance on take-off. Otherwise, reducing the texture resolution in MSFS 2024 helps to keep the VRAM within limits. This is undoubtedly an annoying problem in MSFS 2024.
Yes I experience this at the gate immediately on spawning. I have 16GB and a little over 12GB are used. The GPU load hits 99% and the CPU is half asleep. OK I only have a 4070 ti super but it’s no slouch and works well enough elsewhere. I do acknowledge that 2024 can be a little bit of a pain at times but as I said earlier I get far fewer issues even with the likes of inibuilds EGLL et al.
I think this airport is possibly a good buy if you only fly in 2d. It certainly looks good to me so please do not let my comments put you off is you are a non VR user. They have obviously put an enormous amount of work into this airport and I’m sad that it’s unusable in my case.
Hi,
the tricky part is that ELLX runs smoothly for some users and not for others - even on almost identical setups. That’s why we’ve been gathering graphics settings from different users - it helps us spot what makes the difference. Sharing yours would let us compare and potentially suggest a temporary fix, until we identify the exact root cause so nobody has to adjust their settings in the long run.
But we do need your reply with those details in order to actually start working on your case.
Regards
Dalibor
Since I was only flying in MSFS 2020 yesterday, I just tested it in MSFS 2024 as well. With my RTX 4090, I get really good performance with the settings below in the Fenix A320 and FSLTL enabled. Of course, I can’t say anything about VR experiences. But as I wrote above, I really suspect a VRAM problem. Above a certain level of detail in a scenery, VRAM simply becomes insufficient.
Why does EGLL run better for you than for me? I have no idea. There are so many individual components that influence this. Perhaps my settings are simply too high for EGLL. I also observed that when checking my graphics card utilisation, it was actually still within the acceptable range.
These with performance issues (like myself): do you maybe use „Realistic Vehicles“ from 4Simmers? I have this installed and noticed there are a lot of cars at ELLX, just not sure if they are custom or if it could be the replacement ones which cause issues in such an amount.
Just a thought…