New Release: Carenado Piper PA-34 Seneca V

BTW The Plane is very wrong when it comes to leaning. You Never lean this Plane IRL to get more ALT. In the SIm i have to Lean to get higher. See here:

Leaning and Performance Charts - Student Pilots / Basic Gameplay Help - Microsoft Flight Simulator Forums

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yea thats what i mean.

This is bad, cause they advertised the Plane as the turbo version, which is clearly not..

Yea it goes to FL250 but i have to lean it. Otherwise the engines cuts off way before

This is a bug with the MSFS core logic for turbocharged engines. The same bug affects the Just Flight Turbo Arrow. I collected a bunch of data and put together a bug report on it. Here’s the thread I created, in case you want to learn more:

I also created a mod to correct this behavior. It requires editing the panel file for the Seneca, but it works well. The mixture lever in the virtual cockpit will move as you climb (it shouldn’t in real-life), but your hardware mixture lever will behave the way it should in real life – you can keep the mixture at full-rich during the climb and then lean once you reach cruising altitude. Here’s a github link for the mod:

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I really love this Carenado bashing.
FYI, the wrong mixture simulation affects all aircraft (at least) since FSX.

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Very nice explanation and bug report, many thanks. I would love to fly turbos that actually are turbos..

Nice info, thanks, try to avoid carenado and buy just flight from now on.

The turbos are actually turbos in MSFS, it’s only the mixture simulation which is wrong.
(For that reason I’ve switched to auto-mixture).

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That’s exactly the reason why I called @NickD2576s post Carenado bashing.
You will be missing a lot of interesting aircraft if you avoid Carenado.

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As a PC pilot, I cannot really judge who simulates the aircraft better. I like the aircraft from Carenado just as much as those from Just Flight. And while we are criticising, Just Flight has not managed to adapt the trim axis to MSFS2020 for months, and that would probably be the smallest detail. It’s just very annoying to have to change the trim axis every time you change the aircraft.

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Regarding the trim axis, we’ll take a look if it’s a known problem. This is the first we’ve seen about an issue. Could you point to where it’s already being discussed or failing that put a post on the Just Forum or even open a support ticket with us. That will mean it’ll at least get investigated. Thanks.

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If you want to fly a Turbo aircraft that isn’t affected by this issue, MilViz PC-6 Porter is the way to go.

The Milviz PC-6 is not a turbo!

They are taking about turbocharged piston engines not turboprops (like the PC6).

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How so? It’s a Turboprop.

That’s correct. See @marccreals reply.

I see… sorry. I was referring to turbocharged pistons as well as turboprops.

In that case, does the Lionheart Trinidad have this same issue? It’s been a while since I have flown it. I seem to recall that it’s been mentioned the aircraft now operates as a proper turbocharged one.

I brought it up here once. After “FlyingsCool5650” wrote that he had asked you about it, I am actually just waiting for an update :sunglasses:
It concerns the “PA-28R Arrow III & Turbo Arrow III/IV Bundle (for MSFS)” for € 55,-. which I bought via “Simmarket”. (0.4.0.exe)

Here’s a link to a post I made on the Just Flight community forum about the trim axis. Basically, after Sim Update 5, the elevator trim axis on all the stock Asobo planes and the Carenado planes was reversed. The trim axis in the JF Arrows remained the way it was before. So for anyone with a hardware trim wheel, the trim axis needs to be reversed every time a person switches between the JF Arrow and one of the stock planes.

It’s hard for me to consider this a bug, since the JF Arrow is the same as it always was. But since all the other airplanes changed, it is a slight inconvenience to reverse the trim axis in the controls options every time I switch planes.