Hi all,
Do you know why ATC never give me clearance for my IFR flght ?
I sent my plan to ATC via EFB
Thanks for ypur help
1 Like
Were you taking off from an uncontrolled airport?
EDIT: Fixed link to correct bug for 2024
from KSAN 
1 Like
Wow, so you canāt file for clearance with the Tower?
I canātā¦ 
1 Like
I am both stunned and I am equally surprised youāre the only one Iāve seen make a post about this at a controlled airport.
Does everyone else who flies IFR use VATSIM or some other ATC solution and you are the only person trying to use the buIlt-in ATC at a controlled airport?!
May be Iām the only one 
2 Likes
HAHA! Maybe you are!
I havenāt been able to either. setup an IFR flight in the EFB planner send it to ATC and only unicom comms are available, with flight following the only option.
3 Likes
We are 2 now !
3 Likes
Same here, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnāt. Even after taking off from uncontrolled airports and switching frequency there is no ifr option.
3 Likes
i actually havenāt got to that point, i spent the week fighting with bugs, setting up controls and doing general testing on the basics
will get to ifr shortly
you say it doesnt work?
Count me as 3. Found this out yesterday. Another think amongst many that donāt work is if you set an ILS approach in the fmc it doesnāt set the frequency. The list of things not working is too long to comprehend.
1 Like
This is the bug for uncontrolled airports lacking any means of filing IFR:
I too am having this issue, I used to use FS2020 world map flightplan import (from simbrief) to load my flightplan in to sim for ATC to work. It was automatic or easy to make it IFR.
So how do you make it an IFR plan in fs2024? As soon as any flightplan from the new EFB imports into the world map using new EFB planner (or simbrief import via new EFB) it still says āVFRā in the world map and has no options with in game ATC to request IFR clearance. Only VFR options appear. On another flight planner tab in the new EFB there is an VFR/IFR switch, but I canāt figure out how to propagate that choice to the world map as it always says āVFRā no matter what I select or how much of that page I fill out.
If anyone figures it out please let me know, as Iād like to at least try default in game ATC with an IFR flightplan. Iāve looked on youtube, but the streamers seem to be overlooking this lack of āIFRā part. They say they have an IFR flightplan, but on their world map they import the plan to it clearly says āVFRā so Iām not sure they have a grasp of it eitherā¦
Hereās how it shows up for me clearly saying VFR every time-
1 Like
Interestingly despite the world map saying āVFRā continuously no matter what I did, the last flight plan I generated allows an IFR request in sim ATC (first time), so Iām going to call the world map āVFRā flightplan label bugged. You do seem to have to choose āIFRā in EFB ahead of āFILE PLAN WITH ATCā (although I had tried this a few times already with no success)
I know in my case I tried that several times (again, only at an uncontrolled airport, unlike you) and I never, ever was given a means to file IFR with ATC.
Have you been able to get the IFR ATC prompt consistently now?
Yes (mind you itās based on a small sample set) but I think that if I use the Simbrief tool in the EFB to import the flight plan then it doesnāt currently import the flight plan to ATC properly for IFR.
What Iām doing today - and it worked with an IFR Fenix flight this morning (finally!) was to use Simbrief on a web browser to generate the flight plan, then exporting a ā.plnā file from Simbrief to local (PC) then use the new EFB flight planner to import that flight plan file, have IFR selected on 2nd page of the planner, then filing the flight plan with ATC. This works and it generated an IFR flight plan with ATC in the sim.
The disconnect (for me and others) might be that the flight plan in the world map displays two labels, one at each end saying āVFRā, but as @mhron has suggested to me today this may be related to a VFR weather report at each end of the trip, not a label for a VFR flight plan. Sounds highly plausible, but confusing eh?
I even managed to have working ATC for the whole flight today, and it held up, and despite a new (weirder) approach for me at EGLL (handed out by ATC) and some strange target alts (9200ft!) on approach it all behaved quite well. Which I wasnāt expecting tbh! No more āclimb to 12000ftā on final!
It even gave me initial IFR clearance to FL370 on my departure! which left the Fenix doing all the VNAV through the SID constraints and climb unhindered which was great.
There is a weird bug(?) to watch out for with the world map though. So for example if you set up an IFR flight plan and submit it to ATC, it populates the fs2024 world map with that plan as you would expect, but it starts the flight on the runway by default, so in FS2020 world map you would usually go and select a gate to start at instead (after you had your flight plan in the world map) BUT doing this in FS2024 selects the gate you chose, but completely removes the IFR flight plan and just draws a straight GPS track line between departure and arrival airports! I kid you not.
So a workaround that I found for this issue is -
- Use world map to choose the departure airport first
- Use world map to select a gate at the departure airport next
- Only then use new EFB flight planner to submit flight plan to ATC
(note: same rule applies for a simbrief flightplan too) - You should now have the IFR plan and the selected gate all visible, selected on the fs2024 world map, and ready to go fly.
Itās more workarounds at this stage, and a case of learning what works and what doesnāt right now as you go along.
Sorry for the long answer but I hope that all makes sense!
4 Likes
First, I laud your willingness to find a solution.
But, geez Louise, what a bunch of nonsense to be able to do what should just be one of the most basic aspects of using a flight simulator.
How did they manage to fall so far? It is depressing and impressive at the same time.
2 Likes
Simbrief tool in EFB is still in beta so it may change and send flight plan to ATC too at some point (it doesnāt seem to right now, just the world map). In the new EFB planner it would be great if you could select the gate in there instead to avoid the workarounds, but I donāt think that is possible right now. Itās early days though, but yes they have turned it into a far more complex process than it used to be. I think the planner itself minus simbrief works in a fairly straight forward way from what Iāve seen, Iām just not using it on itās own yet.
1 Like