Hi there, I was wondering which aircraft would be " Study Level" these days? Any info or help is greatly appreciated. TIA
Weâre going to need some more infoâŠ
What class of airplane do you like to fly?
What do you consider to be the definition of âstudy levelâ?
I am interested in Airliners and Study Level as in difficulty programming..
There seems to be a larger debate about what constitutes âstudy levelâ but in terms of overall completeness and system depth.
Iâd say the Fenix Line up is right near the top, if not the leader of the pack. And the PMDG 737âs and 777âs right there with them.
Not sure what other airliner is keeping up with those ones at the moment.
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A2A and Black Square aircraft.
The PMDG 737, 777 and Fenix a320 line are all study level. I would put the TFDi md11 in there also, just below the pmdgs and Fenix. For airliners, thatâs about it right now. There is a bluebird 757 coming soon which should also be âstudy levelâ
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Iâd include the DC-6 as well. Itâs by far the most complex propliner, even though itâs also the oldest.
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The Just Flight BAe 146 has a very nice systems depth in my opinion.
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DC6 is the first plane thatâs more than a minimal number of times surprised me with engine issues.
I mean the Comanche is my most flown plane in general, and has i think not even arguably the deepest and most realistic engine simulations, but I know how to manage her right, when I have had major failures itâs not been a surprise because I was doing something abusive that Iâd only even attempt in a sim or flying one with the engine way past its TBO, and usually there I just drop a cylinder and itâs not really the end of the world.
DC6 Iâve had several engine failures from my own mismanagement I was NOT expecting and I generally use the flight engineer, once even crashing on a steep climb out after losing one and having no choice but to push the others harder and then losing another. This has actually never happened to me before, even with the Comanche.
The stakes and challenges there are really fun for me, Iâm a big mechanical nerd. Most of the even deeply simulated planes are disappointingly(to me) difficult to hurt, or in the case of something like the 737 deliberately designed IRL to be very hard to hurt. Something like the Comanche is pretty easy to manage once you learn how, and pretty easy to learn because itâs just pretty simple. DC6 is not easy and certainly not simple.
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Egad!!! Is this a thing that youâve done! EEEK! (no, donât answer that!) 
Usually!?!?!! What happens the other times!?
Firstly this is all semi-deliberate as challenges, nothing I would ever attempt IRL.
Very steep high altitude climb over obstacles(like the Rocky Mountain sort) on a 110 degree day pops to mind, plus when I went into the maintenance monitor to see what damage Iâd done turned out my cowl was moderate to begin with which certainly didnât help the situation.
Choosing a livery Iâm not actively using for immersive wear and tear long term, choosing auction, seeing what I can find without consulting the easy mode on the tablet and trying to fly it home.
Cranking the wear rate way up.
Whatâs the point of a sim plane with such an in depth failure model if you donât play with them and see what happens?
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Iâm sorry, I was making a joke. I know youâre an IRL pilot, so, I thought it was funny how you discussed the subject as if you fly post TBO aircraft as if âOh, I do this a lot, and, usually, all I do is lose a pistonâ⊠LOL 
(I knew inside you meant in sim)
On an IRL note, Whoo boy, not something Iâd like to experience IRL⊠(imagining the connecting rod piercing the oil reservoir or block, losing all the oil, etcâŠ)
There can be only oneâŠ.. the hotstart cl650 challenger
Sorry 
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Thatâs a fun one. Would love it in MSFS.
Not quite yet, but getting there.
I see though haha, I was like wait hold up youâve never picked âauctionâ and gotten a barely flyable example with tons of hours on the clock, lots of issues, and not flown it around to see what would happen?
I mean if you havenât dropped a cylinder on the virtual one, at least from A2Aâs simulation of it, while that is a situation you should do everything to avoid, would not be pleasant and would be very expensive once you get to the ground you likely would make it down without a big emergency situation assuming it didnât cause any additional carnage which to some extent aircraft engines are designed to not, youâre still running on 5/6ths of your power which is plenty even though it feels like itâs rattling itself to pieces.
My friend who is actually a pilot, now in a nice safe 737 at a major, had to land a 182 on an interstate once when he had a catastrophic engine failure. It was his first paying flying job doing aerial surveys or photography or something like that, and he was already really not thrilled with the companyâs maintenance standards and looking for a better job, but you take what you can get when you get out of flight school with little time and lots of debt and no he wouldnât fly anything where he could actually find a safety concern from preflight etc. Crank blew a hole through the block, luckily he had some altitude to play with and there was almost no one on that highway so he could find a safe gap to get it down.
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None in my opinion and for 50$ to 100$ these addons should not be considered âstudy levelâ as it is just an hype term. I prefer âhigh fidelityâ term and more usefully understood for entertainment purposes. But the more true as to close to life addons to me are the Maddog X by Leonardo MD-80, Fenix A320 and A2A Comanche. But still not study (as I roll my eyes every time someone uses that term) level to the real world and training purposes.
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