I vented my frustration on here upon release and left it at that. Since then I’ve bitten my tongue. I’ve also refrained from leaving a Steam review as I don’t think it will help matters or contribute to the torrent of negative reviews it already has.
But I’m at the point where my frustration with this title is about to reach boiling point. I mainly do IFR flights in the airliners. That’s my thing. The one aircraft I was really looking forward to in this version was the 73MAX. Four months on and still there’s no instruction manual and it still doesn’t take flightplans directly from Simbrief.
So I use other aircraft mainly the A330. But then I have that annoying DLAA screen flickering so I have to turn off frame generation which makes everything slower and more slugish, eventually leading to a crash most of the time.
Then there’s occasions where the Simbrief plans won’t always import from the free flight screen for other aircraft. You can spend an hour or even two restarting the game and even the machine multiple times before getting an IFR flight off the ground and into the air.
Then to top it off, there’s all this new SU2 beta drama. I got alerts for the posts on here, had a read and then quickly unenrolled from the beta to avoid the same fate as others.
I understand they have a difficult job but if we all knew the game was going to be in this state on launch day, what percentage of us would’ve still bought it especially the more pricier editions? Plus what really p****s me off is that by the time the title is more stable, there’ll be a trailer for MSFS2026 dropped with more deceptive imagery and promises so we’ll be back to square one for a third time. This is an industry-wide culture.
I bought Assetto Corso Evo a month or so ago for a really low price. It’s in an early state and not due for release until November but you had a limited time to get it at that price. If you did, you get the full game and any future DLC for free. Maybe Asobo/Microsoft could look into a similar business model going forward, perhaps?
Other than that, It’s both mentally and physically exhausting but there’s nothing any of us can do but be patient, I guess.
In other words, back to 2020 or xplane, or dcs, or find a new hobby for the next year or two. This weekend’s fiasco should be sufficient to convince people it’s not worth the aggravation.
Lets see what’s next. I am afraid to even open the program anymore. Next Friday they may send a bug that makes our computers explode. I’ve been on computers since the C64 and never have I seen this level of incompetence. I’m back to flying the other SIM.
At some point, gamers are going to have to start showing their displeasure with incomplete games at launch with their wallets. We’ve got to stop pre-ordering and also wait a week or 2 to see what state a game is in upon release. Businesses operate to make money. Stop giving them your money when you do not know what they are releasing.
Forget all of the trailers and pre-release footage that is designed to reel you in. Stop pre-ordering. Businesses have to learn that their customers do not trust them anymore, and the only way to do it is by withholding our money before release.
Already did. Last year I spent over $3k in the marketplace. Knew 2024 was going to be a disaster, so avoided it. The delay in releasing the Brazil update, which was supposed to be out before 2024, clinched it for me - bought less than $50 this year - last purchase was January 10th.
So saved $700 so far, which I’ll spend on hardware, since once they close the servers 2020 will be useless, but the hardware will work in other sims, and other operating systems.
In all fairness, there are two developers I will continue to support - Roman Design and Pyreegue. So thanks Microsobo for saving me $3k a year!
I can confirm (heard from someone with direct connections) that this was exactly the case. Someone in ’the above’, did not allow postponement of the release.
I was looking forward to buy 2024 (i am on xbox serie X) but since release 2024 seems to be a total chaos.
I remember them saying “you will see its a total new code, 2020 was complicated because we were forced to work with an old code technology from FSX etc. But now with 2024 it will be super optimized and awesome”.
Well…
According to the reviews it looks like it was a lie. I am staying on 2020 for the moment but i am getting bored of flying alone without a purpose now on 2020 too…
I really had high hopes on the carreer mode.
So in the end it feels like i will never buy 2024 and will stop playing 2020 either…
Calling it “total chaos” and a lie is kind of dramatic. Maybe just keep an eye on the next few updates. It’s still early days, and 2024 has very long-term potential. Don’t give up on it just yet.
I don’t know about that, MS said the whole reason FS2024 was made is because the code was not sufficient for all the new additions to the sim (like raytracing).
If FS2024’s code is broken, it cannot “get better” with the snap of two fingers. And, honestly, if it can be better, why wasn’t it made better before release?
I have the old xbox live and i don’t have game pass so i cannot try for the moment. I will wait to see what people say after SU2 and hope it gets better.
I, too, have my doubts about the sim. If it does not crash to desktop in the beginning, it is critical errors with the 737 max 8. That plan has rarely worked properly. “IF” I can get the plane set up and take off for an airport, halfway through the flight ALL of the buttons on the top panel go to off and ultimately, I crash or I just escape from the sim. Sometimes it works until I am on descent to an airport and then all of the buttons on top turn off. Today, I tried again to fly that plane and in my set up all of the buttons on top turned off on their own and two minutes they all went to the off position. I am getting very upset with the MSFS planes and the only reason I give it a chance is to wait until PMDG gets all of my planes in 2020 set up for 2024 and have smooth flights that I expect.
Asobo is contracted out by Microsoft. I don’t see how Asobo could get away with halting or even slowing down development of the sim.
Have you looked at all the activity in the Developer Forum lately? Seems like a bunch of fixes are coming with SU2.
And since you started your sentence with if you are speculating and much speculation in these forums ends up being false… including some things I have speculated about.
I got all hyped up about the release too but after more than 4 months I’m done with it. The fact is, 2020 is just so much better than 2024. I don’t like the new lighting engine that makes it overexposed, the scenery is only good for bush flying, the hangar is so much more impressive on 2020 that I feel if you showed the two versions to someone for the first time, they’d choose 2020 over 24 big time. After the fiasco with the botched phantom SU2 beta update, that’s my last straw. 2024 deserves to be in the dust bin of gaming software so it’s off my PC now. I don’t think it will ever live up to 2020.
The problem is that Asobo isn’t working with their own code. They were handed the old FSX codebase to build on and improve—and working with someone else’s legacy code is a kind of development hell. It’s becoming more and more clear that this legacy foundation is reaching its limits.
