Owners of GeForce 600/700/900 series cards, please chime in

Unfortunately there is no way to download an older version of the game. The only thing we can do is submit a Zendesk report and hope they will change their mind on this. The more people send a report, the better our chances are.


Ditto, I have a GTX 750TI and cloud flashing started yesterday.

2GB gpu and 6GB mainboard ram, giving a total allocation of 8GB.

Xeon cpu, barely more than one core used (one thread + kernel overhead), 16GB ram.

With Xplane + Vulkan I was getting 40+ fps.

I was getting 20-30 FPS in MSFS with Render scaling at 70% and the rest of the settings a mix of low & medium. Not perfect, but was playable. (Kepler based Quadro K4000 in my system)

Now with the cloud flicker issue, it is only possible to fly with clear skies enabled.
This does not make the sim 100% obsolete for me, but close to it.
I have been simming a long time, and while flying in good weather is nice - the challenge and looks of “bad” weather are essential to a flight sim for me.

Fortunately I have another sim installed on my rig as well, which runs between 20-45 FPS at almost maxed settings and has weather…

I think it is great that ChaoticSplendid is trying to wake up Asobo not to forget about those of us with older, but still fairly good systems.

Just it would be nice if there was a few more replies to this topic. The more voices, the more likely we get a bit of a time extension till our systems become obsolete for MSFS…


There are a few duplicate topics…I think I’ve found all of them but I’m hoping there’s enough to be a ‘critical mass’ of users affected.

I too am currently flying in clear skies only. Not the same!

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Same over here. Gtx980Ti. DLAA got broken with the 1.10.7 update. In bright sunlight, clouds and horizon are awful. The bloom around the sun is no longer under “bloom” but under “lens flare” instead (really??)

No flickering clouds.

Those are the remaining ones I think, there were also a couple of replies in the Update #5 hotfix discussion thread, but they are kind of lost among other posts complaining about different problems.

I agree. I am in it mostly for the visuals, and not being able to enjoy the clouds and the way they affect the lighting, which is one of this simulator’s most gorgeous features in my opinion, is a huge blow. It also means I cannot play the Halloween challenge since there is no way to modify the weather, and even then I would be missing on the spooky cloud formations. Even if the issue is fixed eventually, the challenge will be removed in next week’s patch…

Unfortunately the amount of voices can only be as big as the amount of Kepler and Maxwell 1.0 users. While we are probably almost nothing compared to the entire userbase, based on the responses I’ve seen in the last two days I think it could be enough for Asobo to step up and do something. As always, the most direct way to communicate with the developers is Zendesk, and once they catch up with the reports we might get an update on what is going to happen.

Personally I’m not going to contact live support since they would just tell me that my GTX 750 is a lower number than the minimum GTX 770 even if it is a newer architecture, so I would suggest people using the GTX 780 Ti, GTX 960M or similar to contact support again once our Zendesk reports are marked as “Solved” I presume.

I don’t have a dog in this fight but this doesn’t seem legit. You bought a game with the understanding that you met the minimum requirements at purchase. They should offer you a full refund if this is the case.


Unfortunately it appears someone else with the same issue was denied a refund.

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Same issue, discussed under the thread “flickering clouds”. With a GTX Titan I was getting 30 -40 fps GA flying. Everything was running smoothly. Till the patch.

As a small update, my Zendesk report is now marked “Solved” which means they have seen my description of the issue and all the specific GPUs that are affected. Once more of you get this, it might be a good time to contact support again to see whether they’ve changed their mind on the matter.


@ChaoticSplendid I updated my ticket as well and awaiting their further feedback. I´m not gonna give up, I do think we´re the right ones here.
@bazonk3rs I´m not interested in refund, I want clear words from them if they´ve done this on purpose or just somebody forgot about something and now they´re covering it with “low HW bullsh*t”.

Buying a new card supposed to inevitable at some point anyway. I´m not gonna argue that, I just thought I´ll read something in an update like “we´re moving to new technology so some old cards will get deprecated, please, upgrade your rig”.

This would sound fair to me and I believe none of us will complain.


My Zendesk ticket regarding the cloud flicker is still open. Just an FYI.


LOL, made me laugh. :slightly_smiling_face:

My application is already accepted from zendesk and i hope that they do something with this bug

Yes I too have the exact problem, and I am running with a 960M. I have posted my issue earlier in this forum and I have also created a Zendesk report along with short video showing the problem.

I have tried many different Graphics settings/changes and nothing makes a difference.
My current updated GeForce driver is I also tried rolling back to the previous version but that did not help.

This problem only started with the latest MSFS Version #5 (


I raised a Zendesk, and got a patronising message back with a copy of the different levels of spec for the FS. I have a GTX960m with a I7 66700HQ, and it has been running like a dream for me. Until the latest patch

Thanks for contacting Microsoft Flight Simulator Support today.

Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 is continually improving and is highly scalable to suit all kinds of hardware configurations. That said, if you ask too much of your hardware, problems as you report can occur.
This problem is affecting those with video cards on the lower end of specifications. We advise you to lower settings to the lowest level and see if it works. When it does, slowly raise settings until you see problems arise. Unfortunately, there is no fix here other than using the simulation on lower settings, which in this case might have to be without clouds.

Below you’ll find the machine specifications for Microsoft Flight Simulator to compare with your current or future system.

I have now replied with ::

Thank you for your reply however it has this issue from the lowest setting and was induced with the latest patch [#5].
No where in the patch text does it say that all min spec PCs will not be able to use the software as shown. This should have been warned before installing it, and it should have been given an option to not install. No, it was mandatory, so your have obsoleted your software. This product from release to now to be honest has been a train wreck. Why you are charging such high amounts for a sub standard software and obsoleting your user base without knowing. Do you honestly think flying without clouds (well weather) is the right way to deal with this. That is called burying your heads in the sand. Also if that is the issue why not give a switch to turn off the clouds?
Where do we get a refund for the product as it is not fit for purpose. Are you changing the min specs on your website because in my country you are breaking the law (product not as described and fit for purpose).

Very disappointed.


We now have six reports with the same or a similar response. It’s not going well at all…

Also got the same reply. I don’t want to upgrade my setup in the middle of this pandemic with prices skyrocketing. If Asobo doesn’t want to figure out whats wrong they should at least allow us to use an older version. My rig can actually run the game at satisfying fps. Asobo must get their s**** together and fix this.

Agree with all the comments. I was running 30-45 fps in GA flying until the last patch. No other issues, brilliant flying - fun. Well, no longer with the latest patch. This isn’t an obsolete card issue - this is a patch break that needs to be fixed.

Don’t know if a mod can merge these two threads? But it looks like we’re out of the community, folks. Intolerable flashing in top third of screen since update