Persistence / Middle-Aged-Dad / PPL Career Mode

I think there’s a HUGE opportunity for Microsoft to hit a home run & tip the hat to those of us who flew ‘95 “For Windows!”, 2004, FSX and are still with them. Even if they give it a more generic name like “Recreational Pilot Mode” (That we’ll all know as MAD mode). :wink:

Let me fly my wife & son to KJKA (Gulf Shores). Tie it down, come back tomorrow afternoon, and start the Sim at KJKA, in the same spot, so I can fly back home.

  • After checking the fuel and adding a quart of oil, of course…

In a word: Persistence.

Edit: I edited the title to add “Persistence” and “PPL” in hopes that non middle-aged-dads would give this idea a look.

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100% this. Just simple sightseeing and $200 hamburger flights, paid or not. In fact, the $200 hamburger (or whatever culturally-appropriate analog) could be the name of the mode.

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You might be in to something… I bet if there was a way to make this an in-game purchase, call it a “hundred cent hamburger” they’d find a way to implement it. :joy:

Free flight with persistence. I’m on board.

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Well, as a middle aged dad who happens to (shockingly, I know) not own his own plane irl, I’m more than happy to support your MADness - voted.:smiley:

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I kind of get your request, but I’m not sure why it’s necessary. As an example, yesterday I flew from Seattle to San Francisco. Like a lot of people, after landing I need to exit MSFS to reclaim resources. When I came back in, I knew that if I wanted to fly back to Seattle, all I’d need to do is spawn back in San Francisco again. I’m seriously not wanting to disagree just to disagree, but I really don’t get why an ‘auto-spawn’ option at your last arrival airport is necessary.

Now if you flew to some remote location and went a few days without flying again and forgot where you last landed, I guess that makes sense.

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But that’s in freeflight mode. I think the OP is talking about having the infrastructure of career mode, i.e. home airport, reputation, money, maintenance, type progression etc. but related to leisure ownership.

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There is a wish related to persistence:

What OP is looking for is to have the plane keep flying even if the sim is not running, so it could also apply if you land at an airport and let the plane there until the next day for a return flight.
@N582TC : could you review that other wish and advise if it is what you are looking for ?, since you also specified a “Career Mode” in your title, they may be not exactly the same.

No, I’m just looking for the sim to fire up where I left it, with the plane in the state I left it.

E.g. fuel quantity, tie-downs, oil quantity, passenger load… Some of these things (airplane systems specific) be handled by 3rd party already in most planes.

But, since a big deal is made of loading the sim at 30,000’ and zooming in to where you are… How cool would it be for it to KNOW where you are? Would be especially handy for bush trips, where there are no official spawn points.

One could use a Parallel 42 campsite & drop right back down to it. Or load up on a sandbar in a canyon somewhere.

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There are a lot of advanced 3rd party aircraft with persistence. So you could use one of those. But you must mean a default aircraft? Or persistence being a default feature of the sim?

I really just want the sim to start up where I left it. Be that at an airport, a specific tie-down spot, or at the foot of a mountain.

Seems like the program could save the last known coordinates easily enough upon shut down, and an option to start up in that same locale.

But yes, default planes could probably use a bit more in the way of systems persistence.

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That would be a nice option. I remember a long time ago setting up FSX (or was it FS5 or FS98 or one of those?) to do that – I saved a .flt file and had it load on startup.

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Looks like that wish matches what you are asking for:

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I’m 100% in support of this suggestion, and have always wished a new flight would by default start with the same aircraft, at the last location, with all controls and fuel level unchanged. I like to do extended trips, sometimes landing at strips with no fuel, in which case I need to record the fuel level to load for the next leg! It could be so much better.

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It could simply be a career mode in which there is no income. Just costs. Lots and lots of costs.

Alternative mode title: “turning money into noise”

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I encourage you to change the title of this post to: “Free flight with persistence in FS2024”. This post deserves all the possible attention (and votes) .

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:backhand_index_pointing_up:t2: facts.

(With Flight Sim running a close second.)

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If one can toggle it on and off, count me in as well. I’m still a bit hamfisted XD

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I was in with the first edition of MS flight sim in the eighties.
My job was a car tester and my gaffer allowed this game during down times to keep mine and the other testers’ reactions at peak.

I took a break from MSFS in the late eighties and early nineties because I took real flying lessons, at Coventry Baginton. These stopped when children came along. Didn’t get PPL.

Came back to MSFS when Virtual Reality landed.

Now I’ve a home cockpit of the Cessna 172, as that was the teaching airplane.

I’m now considered an ‘Olde Aged Dad’ computer gamer. My son ( 29 ) plays Elite Dangerous, CoD and Assasin’s Creed.

Life is good.

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I would call it “wannabe mode”

MAG (middle aged grandad/grandmother) flying Concorde 002 over my parents house in April 1969 - I’m suddenly Chief Test pilot wearing a parachute just-in-case of a software CTG…crash to ground.

I’d expect Asobo have this covered with a grey/white haired avatar wearing reading glasses for the instruments.

What could possibly go wrong? :grinning_face:

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