ok, and what about it - Pico 4 offers full open xr support ???
Literally look 3 messages above:
This changes nothing for PC, only standalone apps.
I get so tired at having to keep adjusting settings just to get decent VR performance. I wish the time would come when we can just play the sim without any of these settings hassle. I never even use OXRT with my Pico 4, never noticed the slightest of difference. I can ONLY play FSVR in DLSS, as TAA mode always CTD?
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TAA is the only antialiasing mode I use, because my video card is too old for DLSS anyways (GTX 1070ti), and I never had any crash to desktop. I have a Pico 4.
Have you already investigated/tested the usual suspects for CTDS ?:
- video drivers version (switch to newer OR older one)
- NVidia software suite, like GeForce experience that can interfere
- Steam overlays
- USB power management
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How do I enable OpenXR? I am looking for a sharper image in Pico 4. I have it connected via steamVR wired to Ethernet. I have a 4090 GPU with 13900k I9 and 128 GB ram DDR5. I’m connecting via virtual desktop. Even though I get 90 FPS indicated on the Pico 4, my latency is like 50ms. When I do performance panel I see the game latency is like 20ms, all others such as decoding, network, etc are like 3ms. The game runs very smooth, but I can’t get a sharp picture enough to see runway signs at a distance or see papi lights when coming to land. I am getting frustrated and close to giving up and selling the headset.
Download from here then search on Utube, this one is quite good but searching on “Pico 4” will throw up a few more.
With your rig you should get pretty good results, however I’d suggest you don’t need 90 fps, 45 should be more than adequate in a VR headset.
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If you are comparing to a G2, the Pico simply can’t get there due to compression issues. It’s 150mbps vs multiple gigabytes per second
Thank you. Going to try this.
I have both a G2 and a Pico. For my liking, the G2 is far better overall for MSFS. Yes, pancake lenses are clearly superior, but the rendered image itself is MUCH clearer on the G2, and not just in one place, at least if you have a good FOV mod that enlarges the sweet spot. And the compression on the Pico is very noticeable, count yourself lucky that you don’t see it!
Sorry but, if you set it up wrong, “MUCH clearer” is simply not true.
You have compression here and there (sometime is very noticeable, sometime isn’t), you have some graphic glitches, but the CLARITY (ie: the base resolution of what you see) can be exactly the same of a G2.
Okay, I’ve read just about everything, watched lots of Utubes, and still am not happy with the graphical presentation in the Pico. The whole picture is fuzzy, as if I’m not wearing my glasses. I’ve bought prescription inserts which actually help a lot as my varifocals were causing problems. Meanwhile here’s my system specs:
CPU - AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-core: GPU - Gigabyte GeForce RTX4070: 64GB RAM:
1TB SSD system plus 1TB Mcve for MSFS and peripherals. Additional ext HDDs for storage.
ASUS VG27WQ curved 27" monitor 2560x1440 165hz (limited by Nvidia settings to 60fps)
Pico 4 connected via USB-c cable and WiFi switched off. OpenXR Toolkit installed
By playing around with settings whilst running the sim I’ve got it to run nice and smoothly with a respectable 45fps but even with almost everything turned up to Ultra I still have difficulty reading the glass cockpit screens and I can forget trying the altimeter settings! It looks like I can see the pixels, faint tiny squares?
As an aside using the cable and switching off WiFi did noticeably help the latency.
I’m now at the point of just accepting it and taking a break every so often to rest my eyes. Further uprating of my rig is out of the question, simply cannot justify any more expense so as a last resort can anyone suggest something I may have missed?
(Edit - I did manage once to get a very clear image but it was totally unstable and I had to “crash” the sim to recover, obviously a CPU problem but I can’t remember what setting it was! So I believe the Pico IS capable.)
Use VD Godlike res, SteamVR 100%, TAA 100%, High settings and start from there.
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Do you have a Reverb? I tested and tried everything with the Pico but running with a 4090 its uncomparable. See many people return it which makes perfectly sense. No way you cab expect the same experience comparing a DP port to Virtual Desktop. Specialy at high resolutions.
I run Reverb at 4700/4600 all Ultra.
Pico was not a solution.
And believe me I tried and know my ■■■■.
Love to have pancake lenses at a good price.
Maybe Pico 4 with Dp in the future…
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I think the only thing you’re missing is… a 4090 
I had a Reverb G2, with a 4090, and the general experience (on my system) was - and is - better with the Pico, once properly setup and connected.
Yup, agree but the cost of the divorce would be a lot more!
Apart from the upgraded PSU and CPU!
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Well I am happy for you that youre satisfied.
Maybe there are faulty units but I heard a lot of 4090 owners returning them.
Think I know how to setup a machine since I am not a noob in it.
And more I worked in encoding business for a long time. But on my machine it was not good.
short distance good. far area and far aways not good. anyways…
Faulty unit could play a role, and I’m pretty sure “personal preferences” do too - meaning, you worked in the encoding business, so you will be always noticing any small issue. Same thing here when I spot some wrong translation in some game 
For example, sometimes there’s “wobbling” areas in some view. I think: “OK cool, that looks like a visual defect due to hot weather”, while maybe you think: “What’s that ■■■■, that a compression artifact” (And I know it is, it just doesn’t bother me at all).
To clarify, I consider the whole experience to be better because the whole “moving” part is more realistic in the P4, compared to the G2 (at least on my system). And I prioritize that over graphic “perfection”.
Anyway, as you said, the important thing is that everybody is more or less satisfied with what he has.
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What part did I set up wrong?
7800x3D, 4090, VD on Godlike, 70 clarity, HVEC, 150mbs (static), DLSS Quality, OXR Toolkit res override to 4600x4600 (sometimes more) , dedicated Wifi6 router 1.5m from the headset. May have forgotten something but I would say those are the important parameters.
And pixels are actually visible on the Pico, not on the G2. And Pico has worse mura, at least mine did.
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