Please fix your update process

The in game update system is slow and terrible.

Once again, during the AIRAC nav data update, we have to download the entire last patch (25GB) over again on top of the 1GB nav data,

It wouldn’t be so bad for those of us with good connections, except data moves at a snail’s pace. Despite having gigabit connections, people are seeing speeds that would have been consdered slow 10 years ago. This needs to be fixed.

Or give us the option to defer updates to a time that suits the user?
This is what I do for DCS as sometimes I just want to hop on and fly in the time I have available.

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Being an online service, MSFS is in the same class as an MMO, even though though there’s no real interaction with other live players. They can’t allow to defer updates any more than an MMO can. I don’t like it, but I understand why it’s done and why they can’t allow users to opt out of updates.

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I only had to download 1GB.

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Weird People having differing download amounts I too just one Gig download.

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You guys are obviously part of the lucky ones then.

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I only saw three packages patched/downloaded, ‘fs-base-ai-traffic’, ‘fs-base’ and ‘fs-base-nav’
Though I did minimize a couple times so there could have been others.

1 GB is the nav data.

Nothing was updated from Steam or MS Store.

  • MSFS was opened
    -1 GB nav data downloaded and installed from the in-sim updater
  • 25 GB (the last patch) is being downloaded and installed again in the updater
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Doh!!!
I thought it was odd the differing download sizes

It would also help a lot if we had warning this was going to happen - I expected a big update in 5 days time. My PC has been tied up with this all evening - don’t know if it is going to reinstall everything since day 1 or what? Obviously can’t stop it for fear of breaking it. (Not even sure if doing all this will break it)

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That would be in 12 days, not 5.

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Yes - correct. Anyway it was in their ‘roadmap’ and this wasn’t.

This wasn’t explicitly mentioned in the road map because it doesn’t belong there. They have said they would be pushing these AIRAC nav data files monthly outside of the regular update cycle vs waiting 2 weeks until the next big update. Technically, it’s a week late as the latest AIRAC was updated a week ago.

In any case, if the update system was working right, it would have been a small 1GB patch and then business as usual. Instead, many of us got that planned 1GB alongside with having to download the whole 25.93GB from the last patch. That was NOT what was supposed to happen.

It happened last month. People complained. It fell on deaf ears as usual. And here it is again. I have a feeling this will be the norm for a while until this bug vote thread can get enough votes to get onto their radar.

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Anyone know if the AIRAC provided by MS/Asobo is as complete as the one from Navigraph? Do I need to subscribe to the Navigraph version anymore?

Navigraph use Jeppesen charts. MSFS use NavBlue charts. It’s supposed to be the “same” data, technically, but Jeppesen seems to always be far superior and more complete.

I’d personally stick with Navigraph. It’s always up to date and more accurate. But up to you. If you don’t use external tools to fly or fly on networks such as Vatsim, the stock data should be fine.

Now, if you have the full Navigraph sub including Charts, you’re loosing a log of functionality if you cancel that.

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I dont know what you guys are doing tbh. I never had any issues with installing or updating, always went smooth af…what is the reason for this ?

My theory is that it has to do with changing the fs-base folder. Some addons require you to change it and maybe the installer gets confused and just downloads the whole folder again.

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I only had 1gb. So odd why others are not. I have MSFS through Windows Store for what it’s worth

For those that got hit by this, sort your “OneStore” folder by date, and put the new stuff at the top. This will show you what was updated, not why, just what comprised that additional chunk of unwanted downloaded data.

If I remember correctly, when the last patch was released back in December, pretty much all my Asobo aircraft folders were updated, so I would expect to see something similar here.

And that theory would be incorrect.

People who use a 100% vanilla install are as effected as people who install mods. If you care to do a search, read up on last month’s AIRAC update where the same thing happened. And in some cases, people HAVE messed with core files (folks using the Longitude mod which requires editing core files) didn’t also have to re-download the patch after the AIRAC update.

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