PMDG 737 Discussion (PC Version) (Part 1)

Nice to see you back on the wagon Jeremy!

Anyone got any ideas when the EFB will be released? or the 900?

No news on that front. I thought that Capt Randazzo might have given us an update on Sunday but no luck. Silence probably means that they are struggling with it. Likely January for the EFB at the earliest.

As late as it’s getting, either NYE drop or sometime next year.

they are taking more time to make this EFB than the actual 737.

:face_with_raised_eyebrow:

ridiculous

As it looks like the take-off performance calculator won’t be a part of the EFB initial release, personally I’m not so excited about the EFB right now. And I will also really think twice before spending money on the -900 because I already have 3 other variants to fly + two Airbuses, four variants of CRJ and three variants of BAe 146 (and Avro is coming). That keeps me pretty busy. Give me the mighty 777, please.

I just launched the PMDG Operations Center this afternoon and noticed a number of new/updated liveries. That USUALLY happens a day or two before an aircraft update. Perhaps the long-awaited -900 is nigh, along with the usual bug fix releases to the existing -600, -700 and -800 models.

My understanding is that they are coding the EFB in a programming language that they don’t normally use. So they possibly are on a learning curve. Anyway, as my father always said: “it is what it is”. :slight_smile:

That’s disappointing. The only core feature I would want an EFB for would be takeoff and landing performance calculation. Thankfully TOPER can handle takeoff and landing is more or less covered by simply inputting your planned landing rate. Navigraph covers charts and airport info. So, all in all, seems like IMO there’s less need for an EFB than there was before.

Thanks man! Yup. Back in MSFS pretty solid - have been flying a lot over the last week. Got myself the Fenix bus, the PMDG 737-800, and C310R! Plus the awesome iniBuilds A310 has been taking up my time. I HAVE completely forgotten how to fly the MD-82 though… :wink: Since I only had a short time with it before my extended break this spring, summer, and fall. But I will get back to it…

PMDG 737-800 is amazing, as always. Contemplating whether l want the -600 and -700.

Yes, the problem is TOPER is only available for the -700 and I mostly fly the -800. I’ve tried some other calculators available but nothing comes close to Fenix’s A320 performance calculator. I hope that PMDG brings something like that. But unfortunately not with the initial release of EFB, if I understood Mr. Randazzo correctly.

Are you sure?

I’ve never used it but their website suggests they have the -700 available for Android and then an NG package that contains all variants. If that’s not the case it’s a bit sketchy to suggest one thing if it’s actually another.

If you scroll down a bit you can see where it describes an NG package;

re The EFB, if the one thing it needs it’s the one thing it doesn’t have then how underwhelming!

I think I saw that Navigraph charts are going to be incorporated into the EFB at some point, which will be good.

Ok, maybe I should have added “free”. The free TOPER is only for the -700 and to be honest I wouldn’t pay for what it offers. It doesn’t even suggest the flap and de-rated settings and I believe real world calculators do that (correct?). So I still hope PMDG brings a realistical performance calculator like Fenix did in their EFB.

That I didn’t know.

You’re absolutely correct. With modern perf tools you input runway, intersection, wind, temp, pressure, aircraft defects, published obstructions, runway state/braking action etc and it will spit out all kinds of information. Pertinent to a sim player really would be flap setting, de-rate and/or assumed temperature, V speeds and power setting (although that would automatically set when you input the other information into the FMC).

If it’s not giving you that info as a basic (like the Fenix does) then it’s a bit of a stretch to call it a performance tool sadly.

It’s a crying shame that the PMDG aircraft is so detailed in itself but then they neglect to include something so fundamental to it’s operation.

I use TopCat for take-off and landing performance: http://www.flightsimsoft.com/topcat/

It isn’t free, but it seems to do the job fairly well.

Yes mine too. Lots having same issue

I suppose, but with being able to pop the charts out of the sim and make them their own window, they’re sorta already their own ‘EFB’. Unless they have a landing tool like TOPCAT did with both takeoff and landing, I have all my bases covered.

Jetwash, I agree. To have taken so long to implement what I think would be a core feature, takeoff and landing (FMC does the rest in between), they would have set themselves up early to get ahead of the competition. Here in the U.S. the 737 is more or less the most common domestic aircraft and I consider it to be the flagship of their product line, for me anyways. Perfect one product and then move to the next. Lord knows people have hopefully developed better patience with this sim.

I like the 737 even without a tablet. I have my maps on the second monitor, and the speeds calculated by the fmc are good enough for me.