Is it just me or the freezes became worse since the update?
I do a lot of turnarounds and had very little issues before the last update - I usually could do 3-5 turnaround flights per day and very rarely I had a freeze or CTD - and the ctds that I had could be attributed to the sim itself, because they happened only in certain areas and were not limited to the 737.
Now, after the update, I have at least 1 freeze per day, usually on 2nd or 3rd flight and ALWAYS when I click on 'flt plan request". I do everything the same as before - shut down the aircraft after landing and either keep it on APU or GPU, come back later, turn on everything necessary (according to the checklist), type in the departure airport on the init page, request new flight plan on the tablet, go to the route page and press flt plan request. There is a 50/50 chance of a freeze now.
It did not happen before the update and I do those types of flights almost every day since the 737 was released on Xbox (ie. hundreds of turnaround flights for me).
I know there was a bug related to the flight plan request, but it happened very rarely and iirc it was usually triggered by entering the flight number before requesting the flight plan. It is different now and as I wrote earlier, it happens every day for me.
You are not alone in this quest! As the Xbox series X gains more momentum with MSFS , providers like PMDG need to pay more attention and begin supporting the growing market they are ignoring. Iāve build my own systems/simulators since the ā90s but have switched to the console for many reasons, similar to the growing numbers of other Series X users. To be blatantly ignored and misled by companies like PMDG is degrading. Thereās more out here besides the PCs, and the numbers are growing. Gamers may be joining us in the flight simulation world, but there are many of us using the Xbox now who helped devās, like PMDG and even Microsoft, grow into where they are today. Just sayinā ā¦. Let our voice be heard, loud and proud.
Good news from the PMDG forum today - the 777 is being released to the Marketplace for Xbox, and the fixes made in the 777 will be migrated to the 737 - including the ability to update navdata (planned for September).
Wil the textures/fuzzy/blurry/shimmering get fixed on the Baro panel in the 737 on Xbox, i put a support ticket in and they acknowledged it but no fix planned! The issue went away for me on SU17 but returned on 18.
It seems the issue is only on the Xbox and somebody did mention it may be an āSDKā issue!
I have attached some screenshots from my machine as well as some from other people on You Tube flying the 737 on XB.
It is being brushed under the carpet simple as that ā¦ all i want to know is why and can it be fixed yes or no, what side is the issue MS/PMDG ? i think MS so i am screwed there ā¦no chance of my Ā£58 returned. So do i trust the 777 at a premium price?
Their triple-seven is an amazing product if one likes to fly, as is their 737 series models. There are always going to be little things with products as complex and high performing as these, one hopes that the small stuff doesnāt get in the way of having fun flying these models; but if they do, probably better to wait a while for other user reports before buying into the newer product. For my part, I am greatly enjoying flying both the 737 series and the new 777 on my series X; but then again, I will overlook lots of small stuff (to me, anyway) to get my hands on models that fly and work like the real thing. YMMV but maybe wait a while to see if you think you may like the T7?
Even if all reports are good a sim update can introduce flickering, weird shadows etc like one update made one guage on the skymaster unreadable as it was pushed off the bottom of the area.
Money is not the issue, i do enjoy flying the 737 so i will try to over look the graphical issue. Just downloading the 777 so look forward to learning that aircraft, some liveries available now too so all good.
After several months Iāve finally gotten to the point where I am pretty comfortable flying the A320 neo v2. Iām considering trying out the PMDG 737 next. Is it similar in complexity to the airbus or is it harder to learn how to fly it?
I guess it would depend on how one had come to fly the v2. It could be said that they are similar in complexity as modeled in the sim, from a flying, not a systems point of view. That said, Airbus ālanguageā is very different from Boeing ālanguageā as this relates both to nomenclature, how controls and systems are labeled, as well a pilotage philosophy. If one doesnāt mind spending a lot of time learning a new way to think about oneās airliner flight, one might enjoy learning the other airlinerās ālanguage.ā OTOH, if one simply jumps into the other without some preparation or experience, they are likely to find frustration rather quickly!
My MSFS experience had been in Boeing before FS2020, so I had to learn the Airbus language and philosophy of flight. Flying Airbus still does not come naturally to me, I have to think about just about everything each time I fly a 320. Then again, it took me about a hundred hours in the PMDG 737 to really feel comfortable in it. Long story short, I can put up a 737 flight rather quickly, an A320n flight takes a little more thought and care for me to do it right. There is that much cognitive dissonance in how the flight control systems are set-up, they are just different. One can enjoy either rather easily, but to enjoy both takes some effort to respect the two different philosophies and hold the two different languages in oneās head. If one can master both, and I have not, one will become a knowledgeable aviator IMO. Bon chance!
Thanks for your reply. I donāt think I know enough about real aviation to discern nuance between different pilot philosophies. Iām to the point where I can make the A320 do what I want and expect it to most of the time. I wouldnāt say I know anything about real world flying. The Boeing would be something new to learn and try outā¦ but I am hesitant to spend the money if it will be too difficult to learn for my purposes. I also am wondering if MSFS 2024 will come with a 737ā¦
It is not a matter of nuance, the differences between Airbus and Boeing are not subtle! If you learned the v2 and are comfortable in it, you can learn the 737 too, but you will have to learn it and that will take some time which will be well spent if you donāt mind learning a not of new ways to do the same old things in an airliner. Where folks get frustrated is if they think hey, I can fly a 737 so an A320 will be no problem, right? Uh, no. Itās like starting over again and learning how to fly a slightly different way. Folks who take the time to really learn a new airplane will may enjoy the transition, and those who enjoy languages even more so!
We have heard that 2024 will come with a 737, so that sounds like great fun. If you want to wait till November, hereās what I suggest: Learn how to fly the 787-10 if you have it. The panel layout in that 737 may be more similar to the 787-10 than the PMDG 737ng series. If you donāt hate the 787 in MSFS now, you probably will not hate the new 737 in 2024. It can be a low cost way to do some exploring to see if you enjoy things Boeing. Missing my pushback time at KSFO, off to KSLC to catch some hot tailwinds in the 738. Cheers!
Iād also add that there are plenty of great YouTube tutorials to go along with the documentation about flying the 737 (including the in-game checklist). If you put the time in, you can definitely learn it in the same way that you learn the A320 v2, but you just have to treat them as different planes completely because they are not similar at all outside of both being able to fly.
