[Polls] World Update XVIII: Germany, Austria, and Switzerland

Has anyone tried out Munich (EDDM) yet, because the main terminals are all gone.

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Would really appreciate screenshots of EDDB and LOWS

Hey all

While the trailer of World Update 18 (DE/AT/CH) looks amazing… I can not help but to think: Are they cheating?

Compare this image from the trailer:

To the actual sim:

Sure, it’s hard to get the lighting exactly the same way… but you will notice:

  • in the trailer, everything looks A LOT more vivid / saturated

  • in the trailer, there are no grey squares (blue circles). In the sim, they are there. At least in my case… yours as well? (I have thouse grey squares on almost every mountain)

  • in the trailer, there is snow at the mountains (red circles).
    However in the actual sim: Good luck with that! You can either have no snow at all (just normal satellite images)
    OR you can turn live weather on and the whole area is broken and looks like this:


    Why? Because they still have not fixed the live snow bug in this area that covers everything in snow even in summer.

So… what do we think about this?
Why are these grey squares not visible in the trailer?
Why are the mountains higher up nicely covered in snow, while that is not possible in the actual sim…
And why is it that much more vivid (that’s the easiest to cheat of course)

Very odd…

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EDIO to EDUX. A tile limit is clearly noticeable. I haven’t seen any “generic french field” yet, but that does not mean this plague is out.
I’ve encountered post-apocalyptic melted buildings. And a bit more stutterings.

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Munich shouldn’t look like this. That is a screenshot of a friend of mine and we deleted all addons that could possibly affect EDDM. The main terminals are missing, but the rest looks fine.
We reinstalled EDDM (Munich Airport) and restarted the sim but there was still no improvement.

(I am aware of the pink textures, but those only happened because we deinstalled an improved airport mod by Zinertek)

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fixed after multiple restarts of the sim

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Same here! I was wondering too! After deleting rolling cache and restarting the sim SEVERAL times, the buildings came back. Might be a server related issue but definitely something strange is going on today…

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Had time for a quick blast around Salzburg and it looks wonderful!
Sad to hear about EDDM.

How does EDDM look now ? I have Aerosoft (simwings) EDDM , think I stick with that for now

EDDM, LOWS, and LSZB all work properly for me. The airports look fantastic, but as usual with Gaya’s airports, they have interiors but they don’t let you go inside, it’s such a dumb thing that only Gaya does. Also Gaya really seems to struggle with interior lighting at night. Stansted was too dark, and there’s no lights on inside the terminal at LSZB at all.

It’s hard to complain when these are free airports and done to a much higher standard than the Asobo airports that came at launch with the backrooms-like parallax textured windows. But it’s weird because in terms of effort, these are both things that Gaya could fix for minimal effort.

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Hello @MrTim737,

I suspect you probably have a conflict with one or more add-ons. Here are two screenshots of EDDM I took just now from approximately the same camera angle as your images, and all the buildings appear correctly for me.


Thanks,
MSFS Team

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Hi @TheRealOli4D, with regard to your comments:

Possibly the system had HDR enabled?

Should be easy to reproduce on other systems. If others cannot reproduce, this suggests a mod conflict.

It depends on the weather configuration setting on that system. If it was live weather, it is not going to be reproducible, as the video was probably taken a month or so ago. If it was one of the default settings, or a custom setting, maybe we can repro it.

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I have to disagree - I would much prefer an interior you can’t go inside, to no interior at all. I’ve seen several airports with pseudo parallax interiors with flat objects that would look awful from the inside but are very convincing from the ramp.

Gaya’s interiors though are definitely nice enough to go inside and look at them, so it’s nonsense that we can’t.

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Well this area around Grindelwald looks since 3 years like the ice age. ALWAYS. Also in the last few months. It’s one of these areas that are constatly in winter because they use poor and wrong data from meteo blue.
So they DEFINITELLY tricked here… They only question is how.
Because they have snow high up… this is not possible in the current sim. So they either use MSFS2024 for this trailer or cheat in another way.

And in terms of the grey squares… yeah I wonder if others have these too or it’s on my end…

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Great update overall, but the download speeds were incredibly slow. I have true 1 gig internet speeds and it took over 50 minutes to download. This really needs improvement.

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Very fast download speeds for me.

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Absolutely fantastic photogrammetry with this update. Didn’t eat FPS much. But I have to say, I’m quite disappointed with the Gaya sim SZG and MUC, reason being is the lack of accuracy, for example at Munich, the terminals are perceived as grey when IRL they’re a white colour, really low res textures all over the two, and most of all, both airports are really bad on performance. Every other part of the update is great I have to admit, just disappointed as I was really looking forward to a great Munich especially to them feel like it’s worse than the Munich currently available and incredibly inaccurate😕

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Didn’t Jörg say during the dev live stream that the trailer was based on MS2024 and as such is a bit of a preview for the new textures and stuff? Or did that just apply to the screenshots he showed?

EDIT: here is the part at 29:43. I think he was talking about the screenshot presentation:

At the first view…this world update is absolutely stunning. You have to look at the Zugspitze on top for example. Even the Zugspitze gondola cable car is animated.

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Uggg CTD (on Xbox X) loaded into Berlin with a Cessna and crash upon Ready to Fly load screen. Now have to start over and it’s painfully slow, it being FS2020. Hoping 2024 is faster