PSA: Xbox Reserved Space & Storage Expansion Card

Thank you. :blush:

You and I have a similar size (195.5 GB for me).

Since we are still far away from this, currently, theoretical 500GB limit, we can’t evoke this issue for testing.

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I really appreciate your investigation on this issuešŸ‘

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Thank you very much!

I have to step out for a bit, but I will work on writing this all up.

I’m going to ask you to read my write up before I post it.

Didn’t mean to delete….

If this is the case that we are limited to 500GB, then in keeping with ā€œGā€ rated verbiage, this really stinks people!

For all purposes, the console was purchased for this simulator. The expansion card was purchased for the add-on content. If I missed the fine print or the disclaimer anywhere along the way where Xbox users have a 500GB cap on addon content installed at a time shame on me….

If this is the case please advise and I will gracefully return to my seat and enjoy the reminder of my flight.

Looking forward to your write up, I’m here all evening.

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It seems clear to me this was a complete oversight on the part of the development of the sim. I’m not even sure there was 500GB worth of downloadable content for Xbox at launch.

Hopefully, we can find a solution here, but it’s not going to come quickly.

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hello
can someone show me the procedure of how to activate a 1 TB seagate card on xbox
I only installed Mfs on the xbox with the Market place addons and I still have 42 Gb free
Thank you

If I am correct the space from the internal and the external memory cannot be shared for fs2020. So either I install it on the internal storage or on the expansion card. As both have a size of 1TB there’s no difference between installing the fs2020 on the internal storage vs the expansion card and I have an amount of 1TB in total for it either way. XBox Series X.

Currently MSFS on Xbox consists of the following installed items:

  1. MSFS (As of this writing. Future patches and changes will alter these values):
    • Base game | 65.5 GB (this is the sim without anything else installed — no Marketplace content including no Deluxe or Premium content)
    • World – Offline mode | 59.8 GB
    • Add-on Support | 299.9 MB (WASM support)
    • Digital Ownership | Doesn’t need to be installed
  2. Saved Data:
    • your gamertag | 11.9 MB (your game save file that’s synced to the cloud)
    • Reserved Space | size depends on user (Marketplace content & Rolling Cache Size, also stores custom camera views and minor settings such as Traffic slider settings)

For reference I will refer to item 1 above as ā€œMSFSā€ and item 2 as ā€œSaved Dataā€.

My research has determined the following two scenarios if you have an Xbox with a Storage Expansion Card:

  1. If ā€œMSFSā€ is installed on Internal Storage — ā€œSaved Dataā€ is also installed on Internal Storage
  2. If ā€œMSFSā€ is installed on External Storage — ā€œSaved Dataā€ is still installed on Internal Storage

There is currently no way to install both MSFS and ā€œSaved Dataā€ on the External Storage Card. Therein lies the rub, because the ā€œSaved Dataā€ is what can grow and grow and grow due to both being able to set whatever size Rolling Cache you desire, but mainly because of Marketplace Content installations.

Basically:
• If you use your Xbox for more than MSFS, as it stands currently, it makes sense to install all your other games and apps on your Storage Expansion Card. That leaves the Internal Storage with as much room for the sim and Marketplace Content as possible (barring the major bug’s limitations I linked in an earlier post)
• If you use your Xbox only for MSFS an expensive Storage Expansion Card is only going to be useful for storing ā€œMSFSā€ (65.5 GB + 59.8 GB + 299.9 MB worth of data) on it.

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With ā€œsaved dataā€ you mean the ā€œreserved spaceā€ correct?
So from this I conclude that it would be best to install the base sim on the expansion card as then there is a little bit usage of both expansion and base memory.

There’s this other problem now that the sim hangs during start in the ā€œChecking for updatesā€ when the size of the ā€œreserved spaceā€ exceeds 500GB. But that’s a separate issue.

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Yes, your conclusion is exactly the same conclusion I’ve come to.

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Dumb question, but what is the reserved space made off? I have 232GB of reserved space, is that the total of my addons currently installed or?

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It consists of:
• Rolling Cache (if enabled)
• Custom Camera Settings for each aircraft (if set)
• Some sim General Options. Traffic slider settings being one of those
• All installed Marketplace Content
• Potentially other files, such as a manifest of installed content, WASM compiled data for WASM aircraft, etc.

Most of that 232 GB is your add-ons.

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Thank you Nixon, for this explanation.

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After reinstalling I have moved MSFS to the external storage (expansion card) and found that everything - including the reserved space - is moved. The only thing that seems to stay on the internal storage could be the rolling cache. This is derived from the fact that my rolling cache size is set to 8GB which is also the size that remains occupied on the internal storage.

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This is interesting!

My attempts to move MSFS to the Storage Expansion Card left my Reserved Space on the Internal Storage.

Had you started with the sim completely uninstalled and then you set the OS to install new content to the Storage Expansion Card and then installed the whole sim?

Or did you just move it from Internal to External?

I wonder why, in my case, the Reserved Space was left behind.

I may have to uninstall the sim from one of my Xboxes and test this out and update my OP.

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I just moved it after I had deleted the reserved space and after I re-installed the deluxe and premium packages as well as the 12 WUs. No planes or airports reinstalled at this point.
I actually hoped that the reserved space would stay on the internal drive so that I had a better balance on the usage of the internal and external storage.
Moving the sim btw went quite fast as obviously it’s only a copy from one SSD to the other. If there is a performance impact using the external SSD vs the internal one I cannot tell : no (subjective) difference so far.

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Help me understand the process.

  1. You cleared Reserve Space—>Moved the sim to the Storage Expansion Card—>Installed Marketplace Content

  2. You cleared Reserved Space—>Installed Marketplace content—>Moved MSFS to the Storage Expansion Card

Did you do 1 or 2?

Actually in between :smiling_face:

  • I deleted the reserved space
  • re-downloaded the fs2020 premium and deluxe packages
  • re-downloaded the 12 WUs
  • moved the install from internal to the external SSD
  • re-downloaded bought airports and planes
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Thanks!!

I’m going to mess about with one of my installs and then recompile my OP to try and shed some more light on this perplexing behavior with where/how/why the storage ends up where it does.

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I’m following what you wrote and having to do the same thing I have a doubt
will the next purchase on the market place go to be installed on the external storage or will it end up in the reserved space of the xbox?
Tks

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