I know this question may sound a little bit silly, but I didn’t find any good answer on Internet. The question is is the following Do the quality or type of the Ethernet cable Will change the performance of the photogrammetry in the simulator?
I’m using an Xbox series X and I have a 60 Megabit per second Internet connection. But during the last Month I was experiencing a lot of screen, flickering (flashing) and the Message that my Connection was too low to stream photogrammetry appeared randomly. Recently I just tried a wired connection and it seems better. I have much less screen flickering. But I do receive this message About my connection from times to times. I’m wondering if it could be the quality of the Ethernet cableor did the speed of my Internet connection drops from times to times.
I did the speed test on the Xbox with the wire connected and I get about 69 Mb per second so it seems good at this end. somebody else in my house is also streaming video through the same connection while I’m playing. do you think that 60 Megabits per second is enough or should I raise a little bit?
60mb/s on a wired connection would be fine for MSFS. A wireless connection is another story as your data speed will only be as good as the weakest link and the weakest link is typically the wireless connection between your PC and home router.
The challenge is Internet Service Providers give their customers cheap routers where the wireless connection speed between the PC and router is typically less than the speed of their service. In this case increasing the speed of your service is not going to help the connection speed between your PC and router.
What is the speed of your internet service currently that you are paying for?
I’m currently paying for 60 megabit per second. Do you think that The quality of the cable matters? As far as I’m concerned, it’s just a square signal travelling through a copper wire, so I think it much of a marketing gimmick.
Im not sure… f your cable is in good condition i shouldnt think so (maybe interference from nearby ac?)… one time i had problems with the ethernet cable but the problem was that the cable (home made) was coming apart… so my internet worked like crap. But it still worked… weird. I tossed it in the trash and bought a new high quality one. Marked improvement. But my problem was a bad cable to begin with.
If he suspects a problem with the cable then he can buy another one - they are very inexpensive. He can then at least tick that item off the list of possible root causes of the problem.
I don’t think the cable is the issue but you can purchase another one to verify.
So if you’re paying for 60 and getting 60mb/s then that’s great and tells me your cable is good. What I would recommend is to do an internet speed test as that will uncover if there are any issues with latency. Go here and do a speed test with both wired connection and wireless connection and post the screen shots back.
Chances are if it’s a factory cable it’s fine. There have been counterfeit cables out there using aluminum wire. The spec for Cat 5 is copper-only.
Cat 5 cable can support 1000 Mb/s data up to about 300 ft.
Cat 5 is being phased out in favor of Cat 5e or Cat 6, which can support higher datarates.
Now, if somebody made that cable for you there could be all kinds of problems. The best way to troubleshoot that is to simply replace it with a factory Cat 5 cable.
OK, so the first two pictures are wired and the two second ones are wireless the first one in each Row is the test perform in the Xbox setting while the second picture in the row is the test made under speedtest website on the same Xbox using chrome navigator.
Cable shouldn’t matter. Even the very cheapest have always worked fine for me. I’m using the very cheapest cables I could find… many years ago. Might even be more than 20 yrs at this point.
Yeah, I think you’re right. With the Internet speed that you have do you experience any problem with Photogrammetry? or any flickering on your screen or monitor?
Only when my CPU can’t keep up! The most I see the game using is 70 or 80mbit. Usually it’s more in the 40-60 range.
It will push your connection to the maximum probably, but your cable isn’t the problem I’m sure. My CPU is an i7 10700k @5ghz. It’s not fast enough to build cities without some stuttering. Judging from the fact that it’s showing 40-60 mbit on the meter most times, I’m quite certain it’s not the internet connection.
I’m gonna give it a try and raise my Internet connection to 100 Mb per second just to see if it change anything. Otherwise The problem must be because I’m running an Xbox series X
This is the same test using WIFI, note how much slower it is. Reason, all my neighbors around me are using WIFI at 2.4g or 5g along with other devices that competes with my wireless.
Here’s some tips:
Several factors can influence your network speed.
WIFI distance from the Router : Imagine being at a loud party. As you move away from the person you’re talking to, it becomes harder to hear them. Similarly, signal strength diminishes as you move away from your router. The distance between your device and the router significantly impacts your WiFiperformance.
Number of Connected Devices : Having too many devices connected to your WiFi is like everyone talking over each other at a party. Each connected gadget consumes bandwidth, leading to decreased speed.
Interference from Other Networks : Nearby WiFi networks, cordless phones, microwave ovens, and other electronic devices can interfere with your WiFi signal resulting in slower speeds, as shown above.
Network Congestion : During peak hours, when many users are online, network congestion occurs. This can slow down your internet speed. Unfortunately, you can’t control external network traffic, but you can choose a less busy time for bandwidth-intensive tasks.
Router Performance : Older routers may not be able to handle high-speed connections efficiently, consider upgrading to a newer router with better performance capabilities and use CAT5/5e or 6. I’m using CAT5 at 50feet with no issues.
ISP (Internet Service Provider) : Upgrade to a faster speed if your ISP offers a faster plan. Consider switching to a faster provider if needed.
Location : Your geographical location affects internet speeds. Rural areas may have slower connections due to limited infrastructure.
Time of Day : Internet speeds can vary based on the time of day. During peak hours, more users are online, leading to potential slowdowns. The Internet is ‘Best Effort’
Your results from your tests above look good including latencies - very consistent between wifi and wired connections. The only weakness is your upload speeds so if you only increase your download speed I don’t think it will make much difference. Quite frankly, I agree with @RelativeBell177 above comments. I can easily see stuttering issues if other family members are streaming content while you are simming.
What type of wifi are you using - wifi6 or 6e by any chance?
If you run task manager with the performance tab open + click on your network connection, you can see a real-time graph of the network traffic while you are flying.
If you consistently are seeing the throughput max out at 60 Mbps+, then consider upgrading your contract with the ISP. You can also try a few flights around really busy airports - LAX, JFK, Orly, Heathrow, Frankfurt, Tokyo, etc., all of which will pull in a lot of data. Again, see if your throughput is congested.
As has been mentioned, run these tests when nothing / nobody else might be using your router/ISP connection.
Does your router provide any statistics? I can access my router via a webpage & view in real-time the data travelling through it. If you have something similar, you should check that out too. If you live in an apartment building or built up area, consider changing the password on your router, just in case someone has hacked it & is using your router as an access point. Wireless sniffer software is readily available, easy to use & can crack most passwords nowadays in a relatively short time period.
AFAIK, last I heard, MS recommended 50M+ for the highest photogrammetry settings.
If your connection is shared with other users who may use it for streaming or downloads, 60M may or may not suffice.
I went 100M and have set up a firewall with strict rules to ensure that I have 60M+ dedicated at all times to my Gaming rig, and to avoid ‘Bufferbloat’. There are some online tools available to test not only your bandwidth but the quality of your connection as well:
You could ask someone in your house to use their device as they would when you play, whilst you test your connection at the same time.
Also, the nodes you are connected to matter.
As someone previously mentioned the quality of your connection is as good as your weakest link… to MS servers.
So even if your house wifi and cabling are OK, how you reach MS CDNs may or may not be optimal.
That is why some people report that using VPNs increases the speed at which they download MSFS updates for example.
Personally, I found out that using a free ProtonVPN server close to me improves my experience. It may or may not be the case for you, depending on your location, but it’s something that you could test.
It is not all about speed. Connection stability is more important. You can have like 1.000.000 Gbit/s as your max download, but if that is not stable, is useless.
By stability I mean that if you have 60 Mbit/s, you have at any time of the day, with oscilations about 5% more or less. For example, when I was on colledge I had internet with 10 Mbit/s download and 1 Mbit/s upload. In 5 years period, connection went down 4 times, 3 was unxepcted, one time was server maintance. When I meassure speed, it was around 10 Mbit/s down and 1 Mbit/s up. Ping was also low as possible, 10-30 ms for servers in Europe, while NA it was 90-150 ms. Packet loss was marginal, I can say no packet losses. That was totally fine. At same time, provider which I had in my home town, connection was 50 Mbit/s down and 3 up. But connection was unstale. Sometimes down goes down as 5, upload went to 0,1. Sometimes for few seconds or minutes I have no connection. Also ping at Europe was 50-80 ms, while NA goes up to 500 ms. Packet loss was huge.
Because of that, 10 Mbit/s connection worked better than 50.
Also what I would mention, that on 10 down speed I was able to play YT video at 1080 resolution, play online game like World of Tanks and also have some download in background, but limited at 5 Mbit/s. While on 50 Mbit/s connection even single YT 360 video was sometimes unplayable, not to mention WoT. Downloads were with interuptions, or with huge download speeds drops.
