These past 7 months have been hard. There has been so much negativity and emotional ups/downs as a result of MSFS 2024. The forum, during this time, has been a difficult place to visit.
I know I’ve been up and down several times since 2024’s release. I’ve expressed my exhaustion by it.
What I want to acknowledge is that I am starting to see real positivity being expressed lately. SU3 beta is really coming together and giving many of us hope. There have been some absolutely awesome aircraft releases recently. Many of us who are flying them are all so impressed by them and happier with 2024, as a result.
So, yeah, after a time of darkness, it is wonderful to start seeing light here in this forum.
Those of you who have stood by it all and powered through this together, thank you for being a part of this journey. You have had an impact in my sim life, for sure.
Yes, I would like to thank all the Beta testers for your dedication to the cause. Let us hope it brings much more joy to all MSFS 2024 pilots. Thanks again.
I still remember some people saying a few weeks ago that MSFS 2024 was fundamentally bad by design, that it could never work properly, and that Microsoft would even abandon it. LOL
You should never underestimate angry developers…
Of course, there’s still a long way to go, but now there’s a healthy basis for looking to the future with confidence.
After su2 beta was released, I pretty well jumped into 2024 and have been enjoying it for the most part. I had a fantastically smooth GA flight, for about 2 hours with a bunch of mates the other day, through the Rockies, no hiccups at all.
So taking these comments into consideration, I am very hopeful that once SU3 is released I’ll enjoy it even more.
Any VR (Quest3) users feel like commenting? I’m a newbie to VR and am still fighting the Quest 3, but from what I’ve been reading on other forums, it would appear to be a Meta problem, not Asobo.
Nice to see you! Been checking the SU3 feedback and saw you active there, but nice to see you a different feedback here. Also looking forward to SU4 (saw SU3, won’t make it for me, but SU4 should at least be in the expectations ballpark).
I guess I’m also angry and let down because I can see 2024 has the potential. It’s just based on bad technical and design decisions (locked missions to career mode, everything being streamed, rushed and unfinished airplanes, LOD issues still present, ATC regression, extremely way off night lighting in exchange of more eye candy… well you know everything better than me), but with some luck, some of them will be steered to a nicer direction.
I fly with my Quest 3 all the time and MSFS is stunning. My system is by no means a screamer either. I am on a PC with a 5700X3D processor and a RTX4060ti graphics card with 16gb, 32gb ram. I think flying with Virtual Desktop is the key. I had bad luck with direct connection and by going through my very fast wireless connection, my headset is free. I also have an extra battery on my headset so can get many hours of flight.
The wonderful thing about Virtual Desktop is that you can create cutouts for your hardware on your view and the software can also autosense your keyboard. I have about 50% transparency on those cutouts so I can still see the cockpit through them. Also, clicking the menu button on your controller you can start a video of your flight without having to use some exotic addition of OBS.
My flights recently with SU3 have been stunning and smooth and very controllable. I also use VoiceAttack software so that I can map spoken commands to key bindings and not have to fumble with my keyboard for flight actions.
I have said since November 20th that we’ll have a good sim in a few months (which I think was accomplished with the releases of SU1 and SU2) and a great sim by the holiday season of 2025 (which we seem to be on-track for with SU3 and even SU4). Don’t stop now!
I have always been one of the apparently fortunate ones, having uncommonly good performance/results with both 2020 and 2024. Yes, I have noted my issues and annoyances with 2024 but by and large, for my type of GA lowish and slowish flying, after the initial rocky start, 2024 really has been pretty decent.
As others have commented I have always appreciated you no nonsense, tell it like it is without hysterics contributions on the forum. Your threads/posts are always worth a read and this one is no exception. Good to see the balance and the recognition for where we are: much appreciated.
Thanks for your response and pointers.
I am using Virtual Desktop as well. Running a 9800X3D, RTX4080 super, 64GB RAM. Am also using an Oculus Link Cable.
Main problem is that the headset keeps 'unpairing"…so I have had to keep Factory resetting, (I have tried searching for a solution, but haven’t found one as yet), this, together with graphics freezing, has made the whole VR experiencing very frustrating.
Also having a challenge with achieving decent graphics, they are a long way from 2D quality, I believe that the VR graphics are not as clean/sharp as 2D, but mine look nothing like many examples I have seen on various YouTube vids.
I understand switching to VR, was going be a massive learning curve, but at the moment, it feels like a huge frustration, and I’m running out of hair to pull out.
I’m on the wrong side of 70, and am starting to feel as though VR is a young persons realm. But I’ll keep persevering, and hopefully, will be able to sort it out. Any pointers would be gratefully received. Thanks again.
@LuisArgerich get in here and fix this. This is much too upbeat.
Edit: oh dear, got flagged as inappropriate. Sorry, this was entirely tongue in cheek. I hope Luis knows I truly respect him as a pillar of this community, and it’s only out of recognising this that I felt comfortable making a joke…
This whole post is a breath of fresh air. Happy to see @NixonRedgrave back to being his optimistic self, and even @LuisArgerich is joining in!
I hope that SU3 lets developers be confident enough to start porting addons over in earnest. For me, that’s the last piece of the puzzle holding me back from making the jump fully. Though I say that as someone who hasn’t tried SU3.
Can we get the old forum back now? The one that was an upbeat and positive place to spend a slow work day… I’d love that.
Most reasonable folk knew the sim would mature. There were never really reasons to be pessimistic, unless you were the hyperbolic type. My estimate a week after release was that we’d start to see significant improvements after the first 12 months — so to see them inside eight months is certainly positive.
Sure, there’s still quite a way to go until the regressions get sorted but third-party devs are, as always, stepping up to the plate and filling in what Asobo isn’t currently providing (BATC and Mamu’s Pylons & Solar farms being perfect examples). Too many people talk as though the franchise has already passed its prime and to those, I say: don’t encourage a self-fulfilling prophecy.
I wasn’t frequenting these forums when the original MSFS was released but I hear there were the same complaints, and similar levels of pessimism, frustration and disappointment. Human behaviour is so odd — some of those bashing FS2020 not so long ago now hail it as a shining example of stellar workmanship; while conveniently using it as a weapon with which to bash the latest iteration.
This last week, for the first time, I’ve found myself playing 2024 much more than 2020. Most of the world looks way better in 2024, due in no small part to the changes in the lighting engine. Aircraft ground physics are improved (though we still need wet or icy runway effects and, by extension, in-cloud turbulence), as are load times. The new voluminous trees are more convincing but I find they can look slightly over-saturated in certain light — as can some of the terrain ortho in certain regions (central Australia, Hawaii). 2020’s terrain colours tend to be more muted, which I find closer to reality.
But overall, we have the basis for another great flight sim. And I don’t feel the team has been disingenuous or is attempting to water down the realism purely to appeal to casual gamers. The internet can bring out the worst in people, many of whom forget that Jorg, Seb and co. are normal people, with consciences and their own set of worries and frustrations. At times, anyone would think the botched release of FS2024 was deliberate, or to the team’s advantage.
It’s kinda easy to mix what you said (people’s positivity) with the actual state of the simulator, which for many (including me) is still far from reasonably acceptable. However, I still think it has the potential to become something better.
