A Mosquito is coming from AH according to their Facebook page. Looks to be MSFS2020 again.
I surely hope that itās compatible with 2020. I donāt begrudge the 2024 crowd a bite of this particular cherry but Iāll be as sore as hell if I canāt get it. I have been campaigning for a āMozzieā for a very long time. Well done AH and thank you. Thanks EnjonUK too, absolutely made my day.
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Mixed feelings here.
Iām VERY delighted the Mossie is coming, itās such an iconic aircraft and has been top of my wish list for a long time!
My own experience with AH aircraft hasnāt been that positive, however things seem to be trending in the right direction with recent releases (which I donāt own) so Iāll reserve judgement until the reviews come in. Perhaps they wouldnāt have been my top choice of dev for one of my favourite aircraft but Iāll give them the benefit of the doubt!
Looks like itāll be a native FS2020 aircraft. It may well work ok in FS2024 but Iām going to pass until thereās a native FS2024 version, just as I did with the Lancaster. Iām paraphrasing, but I recall AH have stated they arenāt ready to develop in FS2024 until itās stable. While I get that FS2024 is a complex beast, and a challenge, itās one that other devs have risen to, and released excellent aircraft in the new modular format. As per a recent comment from Azurpoly, the modular format allows for super detailed models AND better performance⦠win-win! While itās not an airliner, the Mossie and the Lancaster are both detailed and complex aircraft and I have to believe theyād benefit from the new modular architecture. Comments from AH about their Lancaster suggested that a native FS2024 version would be a separate product, so I assume the same will apply to the Mossie. I completely sympathise with that and I donāt think free upgrades are good for sustainable business, but it does mean I wonāt be parting with any money until the FS2024 version comes along.
Still, to finish on a positive I think itās excellent news that the MSFS community will get to fly the legendary Mosquito. My own self-imposed restriction on waiting for a native 2024 version wonāt stop lots of others from enjoying this aircraft! I just need to be patient!
I am right there with you. I donāt want to purchase a product twice, or at a higher price (orig. price + upgrade fee) if they release for native 2024 when they decide to finally move to 2024. I fly exclusively in 2024 now and have slowed my purchases of 2020 products and have been ramping up my 2024 purchases.
I suspected that I am not the only one doing that, and if they wait too long to start developing 2024 native products, they may start loosing potential sales.
I passed on the Lancaster, will pass on the B-25, and will pass on this one until / if there are 2024 native versions. That is a potential 75-100 USD sales loss.
Just my opinion.
Iām not sure I agree theyāre ālosingā any business. It sounds like you guys will purchase it when itās released. And theyāre getting the 2020 sales from people whoāll buy there. And itās likely if those people ever upgrade, theyāll purchase the 2024 version if they want it. 2020 aircraft are a TON easier to develop and get working. So, getting their feet wet and getting an understanding of the market for their 2020 planes, will help them better develop for 2024 when they get to that. And they get all the sales now instead of a year down the road as they learn how to develop for 2024. And, really, given their history, yeah AH⦠take your time developing for 2024. Stop making lazy mistakes that cause most of your issues.
IOW, their marketing plan sounds like a win-win for them to me. And, personally, right now, I prefer 2020 planes. And, yeah, if I get back into simming again, this will be an immediate purchase!
But, I do totally understand your disappointment theyāre not ready to release for 2024 yet.
I believe AH released a Mozzie for FSX - anybody tell us what that was like? I have yet to buy an AH aircraft, so this will be the first.
I tried some time back to persuade Flying Iron to do the job, IMHO they would be the best dev to do it. There other warbirds are beautiful
They never even managed to get ready to develop for FS2020.
Their products for 2020 consistently demonstrated a lack of competence and care thatās up to the level current simmers expect.
Their best efforts were the simplest planes they released like the Cessna 140 or Globe Swift where there was frankly less to do and less to screw up (although they still managed to release the latter with the aileron animations reversed).
The more complex an aircraft they chose to model the more shambolic the result in terms of fidelity, with their DC-3 and Boeing 307 needing extensive user-made mods to get them anywhere close to a semi-realistic level of functionality.
I defended AH in the early days of FS2020, partially I admit because I remembered their add-ons from all the way back in the FS9 days and I was sentimental, but with each new release the more they demonstrated they have a beer-in-one-hand āeh, good enough!ā approach to their work which is simply not good enough anymore for payware at the prices they charge.
Very well stated.
I will say, Iām not unhappy with their P-47. But, I havenāt flown it extensively.
Lets clarify that. They can be potentially loosing income from the lack of a 2024 version. Who knows, if it comes out for 2024 within the next 6 months or the next year I may not have the same enthusiasm that I currently have for this particular plane. Which means there is a high likely hood that I would have bought it day 1 now, and most likely I will have moved on to other planes when they actually release it for 2024. That would be a lost sale. If it takes to long to come to 2024, I may be annoyed and write it off completely at that point because of an annoyance that the developer took too long.
I have been getting a steady cadence of releases of 2020 planes updated to 2024 as of late, and they work amazingly well as well as a good chunk of new planes that are only available on 2024. I donāt know what issues AH has that others seemingly do not or have been able to work around, but I am thinking that it may be more whining about the fact that 2024 is out and they would have to learn a new way to update their planes rather than issues with updating / creating new for the new sim.
They might not bring a ānativeā 2024 version, but in all honesty, they work just fine in 2024. I love the Lancaster for example, and I fly exclusively in 2024. Iāll definitely be picking up the Mossie when they release it.
After the 307 Desaster Iād only buy from them again if theyād provide rental in the 2024 MP (which is possible for 2020 aircraft).
The problem is not that it might work fine in 2024, but that there will be an upgrade charge for any version they put out that would be 2024 native over the 2020 version.
Despite loving the Mosquito I wonāt buy for two reasons.
1: I wonāt buy until they fix old planes. They have a deplorable habit of not correcting significant issues. Iāve purchased a handful of their aircraft and Iām only moderately satisfied with one. The C-46 wasnāt bad for the price.
2: Iām not going to buy a 2020 aircraft just so I can pay an upgrade fee down the road. If they promised no fee should there be an upgrade, Iād take it at face value, but I canāt see this developer doing that. They care so little theyāre rude to people on Facebook who have problems/issues.
The upside of releasing FS20 aircraft that work fine in FS24 is that repainting is relatively easy for FS20 (and works in FS24) and very hard for FS24-nativeā¦and so far Iāve not found anything concrete in FS24-native aircraft that make them essential to me.
But this wonāt go on foreverā¦
Just Flight sell an FSX/P3D Mosquito that is probably AHā¦I bought it and was disappointed, mainly because it didnāt work well in VR.
For me itās water operations. Thatās the only thing Iām using 2024 with native aircraft for.
Iām not sure I have either, but I use FS2024. Iām not buying backdated aircraft as a general rule.
I can confirm the the Just Flight Mosquito was developed by AH - it says so in the description on the JF web site.
For me itās the modular structure of the aircraft - and the benefits that brings. Even the very best MSFS 2020 native aircraft from the best developers have to make compromises on model and texture detail. The modular structure should make it possible to use LODs on different chunks of the aircraft, so you can see nice detail on whatever is close to the camera, while the rest (that you canāt see!) is loaded at a lower level of detail. If done correctly itās win-win in terms of better performance and better detail.
AzurPoly mentioned this recently, clearly they are 100% on board with MSFS 2024 development.
But thatās the very thing that makes it impossible for me to produce repaints any moreā¦swings and roundaboutsā¦
Upgrading to a native 2024 version would be optional.. the MSFS 2020 version would still work just fine. I have a hard time understanding why people feel they are entitled to free upgrades, especially when the original product works as advertised in the newer version of the sim. Developers shouldnāt be expected to work for free.

