The newest HondaJet has wing spoilers.
Yes, and I think JayDee knows this, the F-16 landing procedure has the spoilers out well before touchdown because that aircraft is notorious for not wanting to slow down. Time to hop in and do some circuits to see what the possibilities are for the Hjet.
I found the HJet speed brakes to be very effective to get down when high and fast on a descent profile, prior to the approach; and once on the ground during a normal landing. Would not deploy them on a stabilized landing approach, however. Good flying!
With new version I mean the new addon version for the MSFS 2024 vs. the old addon version for the MSFS 2020. The addon does still depict more a less an old HA420 with APMG upgrade and partially some other upgrades that are mixed in. It is not a full Elite S or Elite II model.
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But for the Honda Jet we dont deploy the Speed Brakes until after touchdown according to the original documentation.
I agree. The exact wording in the AFM is - little to no flare. And in real-life videos, you see often indeed only a very small flare immediately before touchdown. I tried to perform this way in my video and it results in touchdowns with ~400-300 fpm and ~1.6g, which is hard but acceptable I guess. The question is, if the ground effect in the SIM has the same results as in real-life.
Works just fine though. Full flaps, spoilers out, around 80% thrust to hold 150 kts. Butter!
I’ve only had a handful of landings in the 2025 HJet so far but in my short experience, you do have to arrest the descent some for a reasonably soft landing but you don’t need a flare like in other aircraft. In fact, I made the mistake of doing a little too much of a flare on my last landing which cause it to float considerably. It will be a fun plane to practice and get good in!
Complete side note: I haven’t used the G3000 since my early MSFS2020 days, is there a way to operate the PFD timer? I went through all of the PFD options via the softkeys but I can’t find the timer anywhere.
EDIT: That video linked above by @FlashySky7089 is fantastic and explains a lot including the ‘spongy’ main gear suspension and JayDee’s 1.6g landing. Turns out that’s all by design. If you want to fly the HondaJet, I highly recommend watching that video. GREAT find!
For reference, I’ll add the video directly here:
Sorry for the confusion. The new HJet in real life has wing spoilers. The new 2026 add-on doesn’t have wing spoilers. Just a tail cone speed brake.
The HondaJet HA-420 that simmers have and IRL doesn’t have spoilers.
I wonder what this heavy landing technique will do to the wear rate in career mode? Landing gear costs through the roof?
Sure it might work out, but that is just not the officially published procedure from the manufactorer of the aircraft. Cheers
Totally agree, but the flight model is sophisticated enough such that it doesn’t fall out of the sky. It’s still flyable, and I think that shows the quality of this flight model.
That I would not argue with, but I honestly never intented to imply, that it would fall out of the sky with Speed Brakes deployed.
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Sure, but some aircraft give you that “boom”, you broke the aircraft failure if you deviate from the chosen path.
But he meant the speed brakes. In the MSFS community the term SPOILER is very often used for what would technically be SPEED BRAKES. The MSFS itselfs make absolutely no difference between these two terms, there are only bindings for SPOILES for instances. Cheers
But what has that to do with the speed brakes. You can keep the path with out speed brakes deployed as well. Maybe I just dont exactly understand what you are reffering to, I am not a native english speaker. Maybe we are not even talking about the same aircraft anymore^^.
I just dont see any upside in it, besides it having the downside of an even faster decay of speed once you pull the throttles to idle, which could lead to even harder touchdown.
Reads to me like a proof of concept for a non-standard flight configuration for which no aeronautical rationale was given. Why 80% thrust and 150kts when 50-60% works without speed brakes deployed at Vref? Cheers!