Thank you for the awesome products MilTech!
Also MilTech, if possible, would you please consider modeling the escort ships with the flight deck nets and antenna in the horizontal position that they would be for flight ops at sea?
The vertical position currently modeled is only used when there are no flight ops going on such as heading into port. It is then when they are manually pulled up to the vertical to provide extra safety for those on deck.
Not a huge deal obviously but it would be neat to see them that way some day.
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Noted, will address that in a future update
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Could you be more specific about the control problems you are having?
I may not be much help with the viewsâŠmaybe some other users or Miltech personnel can help with those questionsâŠI think you can grab those individual boxes with the mouse and move them where you want.
Are you on PC or Xbox?
With the controls, do you have the x & y axis set to the âset cyclic lateral/longitudinal axisâ bindings in the controller configuration?
Mark at SimHangar has a good video on the subject:
As far as controlling the helicopter thoughâŠthere are a lot of differences from flying fixed wing. Starting with the point that there really is NOT a neutral control position. They are also inherently unstable and require constant control inputsâŠwhich happen on a delay. So you have to anticipate what the aircraft is going to do, and make inputs accordingly to âstay ahead of the aircraftâ
glad I could help 
I have a series that I am working on to help newcomers get to grips with helicopters.
The torque & pedal inputs in the first video donât apply to the CH-47 because it has tandem counter-rotating blades that cancel out the torque. It also doesnât have translating tendency, since there isnât a tail rotor. Everything else still applies though.
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What is with the double, overlapping POWER/RPM displays in the outside view� Thanks!
This is unfortunately a MSFS limitation as MSFS does not natively support dual-engine helicopter with dual main rotors. The team at Asobo has been made aware of this situation. However, this will not in any way prevent you from flying the aircraft as all the indicators work perfectly fine on the cockpit and the expectation is that users will not read engine RPMs from the external HUD.
Edit: Unfortunately this bug has not been fixed on SU15, even with the implementation of tandem rotor flightmodels. Re-reported the bug to Asobo: Engine RPM and Power on tandem rotor helicopters continues to overlap on SU15 - Aircraft - MSFS DevSupport
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OK. Good to know⊠Thanks!!
CH47D, SU15 AND BEYOND
Hello Everyone!
With SU15 just around the corner, I wanted to provide an update on the promised improvements for the CH47D. Over the past two months, weâve been working on a fully native flight model for the CH47D. The results have been mixed. On one hand, the update has introduced several new variables to individually control the aircraftâs engines and rotors, allowing us to fine-tune torque values and ECL effects more accurately. On the other hand, the flight dynamics of a native tandem rotor implementation have not yet reached the level of fidelity and quality we are aiming for. In fact, any attempt to create a native tandem flight model for the CH47 has resulted in a worse FM compared to the custom FM currently in use.
Given that the CH47 has been praised for its flight model (with a negligible number of negative comments, which is quite rare in this industry), we will not fully switch to a new flight model unless we have absolute certainty is better than what we have out there already. This update will not include modifications to the flight characteristics of the aircraft, but will focus solely on the underlying systems to enable such transition in the future. Progress towards full migration of FM will continue provided we get sufficient clarification from Asobo and achieve the necessary level of fidelity and realism to surpass the current implementation of the FM.
As such, we are proceeding with the release of V1.1.0 of Miltech Simulations CH47D as follows (TENTATIVE RELEASE - 31ST OF MAY):
Partial implementation of new SU15 Flight Model/Engine characteristics:
- ECLs now utilize BEEP TRIM to limit RPM of engines in the GRD Position as per the real aircraft documentation.
- TRQ Gauge now behaves closer to the expected torque readings.
- Engine RPM and TRQ Readouts on the cockpit instruments have been revised and adjusted for better accuracy.
- Various changes to the fuel Crossfeed system, now aircraft can be started with a single pump on.
Complete implementation of EXPERIMENTAL Helicopter AFCS (Autopilot System):
- Three-degree of Freedom System controlling the vertical, yaw and roll axes.
- HDG Select Mode is enabled, it will follow and maintain the heading selected on the HSI. Depending on speed, it will use either yaw only or a combination of yaw and roll.
- BARO Alt Hold will maintain a constant barometric altitude by continuously adjusting the collective.
- RAD Alt Hold will maintain a constant radio altitude by continuously adjusting the collective and will only engage if the aircraft is below 1500 feet from the ground.
Sound Improvements:
- Sound triggers adjusted for engine changes as required.
- New rotorwash effect (wind rushing sounds as the aircraft is flying near or sitting on the ground)
- Adjusted startup/shutdown blends and add enhancements to the positioning
- Replacement or enhancements to overall close proximity sounds
- Blade/transmission whine sounds front/rear zoning created
- Support to blade slap and transmission whine volume adjustments through EFB
Nav Systems:
- CH47D Now fully supports complex GPS Systems (GTN750). Toggable through EFB.
Other Various Fixes:
- Final corrections and edits for checklists
- Right Landing Light (Pilot Side Search Light) seems to be very dim in comparison to the Copilot side bug Fixed
- Optional Dynamic cockpit vibrations that increase with aircraft speed, present at speeds above 130kts.
- Opacity of glass adjusted for better visibility in dark conditions.
- Aircraft CFG Edits to ATC Callsigns
- Blade droop adjustments in C&D
- starting C&D, HYD2 light does not extinguish Fixed
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Good call on sticking with the current flight model, it flies like a dream.
Looking forward to the new version!
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OMG
This addon should be included as a default helicopter in MSFS 2024 - IMO. The ease to which people can jump in and fly it on both Xbox and PC makes this helicopter addon as enjoyable for the first time flight simmer that just want to see if MSFS is fun for them as the default 172, as well as people that have been âsimmingâ for 30 years. Itâs the helicopter equivalent to the ease and enjoyment of Cessna 172 in MSFS for people who have never flown anything in flight simulators before.
For any cruising under 150 kts, itâs hard for me to not want to fly this - and now with an autopilot so I can biobreak without crashing, impromptu landing, or having to pause the sim?! UNREAL!!! 
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I picked this up yesterday and must agree with all the positive feedback.
First flight has been from Reina Sofia - Tenerife South (GCTS) to Ciudad de Laguna - Tenerife North (GCXO) via a stop on the peak of Mt Teide (12,198ft / 3,718m), great fun.
Last time I tried to get there in a helicopter (Bell 206 Jet Ranger - not the B model) it ran out of puff due to the 10,000ft max altitude ceiling. Obviously the Wokka is in a completely different class.
This image shows a Columbia Helicopters B107 (smaller twin rotor variant) towing a hover barge on ice in Prudhoe Bay (as part of an experimental trial). This would be an interesting mission option to have. Foreshortening due to a long lens make the blades appear closer to the ice than they are.
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I use the TCA Airbus stick & Quadrant almost exclusively.
The only problem I found so far (that has most likely nothing to do with the type of stick or yoke used) is that the helicopter throttle axis binding doesnât seem to work as it does on all my other helicopters.
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This is really well represented by the Cabri G2 in the sim at the moment. Turning the assists on when you are just starting out is like having an instructor. The assists keep you from making drastic control inputs, which is exactly what an instructor does in your first hours of helicopter flight. Then you are able to turn them off as you learn and get a more in depth experience, just as in the 152/172.
Not to say that the CH-47 wouldnât be a great âadditionalâ helicopter, but I donât agree with it as a trainer like the 172. Tandem rotor helicopters behave very differently from conventional tail rotor models. Conventional helicopters make up the majority of the fleet out in the world. The Miltech CH-47 is great, but I find it to almost be too stable. It currently flies like the AFCS system is at full gain. It will be interesting in the future if they figure out how to make it behave like the AFCS is turned offâŠ
I have never flown a real CH-47 though, only itâs X-Plane 12 equivalent. They fly pretty much the same, but the XP12 version is a real handful with the AFCS off.
If you want to approach flight sim from an enjoyable for the first time flight simmer, use the assists. That is what they are for.
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Do not use helicopter throttle on the CH47D, as per written on the manual. The CH47D has a governor that will take care of adjusting the throttle automatically. Only thing you need is collective, and the governor will make sure Rotor RPM stays consistent.
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AFCS stands for Advanced Flight Control System - in the particular case of CH47 - an autopilot system. Engaging the AFCS system will therefore set a heading hold / altitude hold, that the aircraft will react to and follow.
EDIT: Correction, the real CH47D has also stability augmentation systems that depend on the AFCS system, though these mostly exist to enable long-term attitude/aispeed holds (eg. a sort of âtrimmerâ on the cyclic, which can sort of be simulated by using the longitudinal and lateral cyclic trims)
Tandem rotors are, by its very nature, inherently stable. It is also an incredibly heavy helicopter. We had a few CH47 pilots providing feedback and it behaves quite close to the real thing - any torque and dissymmetry of lift is accurately canceled out and the moments of inertia are quite high given the sheer weight of the machine.
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I agree. Either a TCA Airbus or Thrustmaster T.16000M joystick would be the way to go. The Logitech 3D Pro is an old design âbudgetâ stick.
I used to use (2) T.16000M joysticks with the springs removed (1 for cyclic, 1 for collective) for helicopters before I picked up a Pro-Flight Trainer Puma.
From my reading and understanding (Iâve seen CH-47 pilots refer to the AFCS as baby mode 
) stability augmentation is the first or highest priority of the system. It also controls all of the trim and âautopilotâ functionality. It would still be more stable than a smaller, single rotor ship with the AFCS turned offâŠbut shouldnât it be less stable than with it on? much like turning off SAS in smaller ships?
Google search supplied links:
chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.chinook-helicopter.com/standards/Army_D_Model_AQC_Classes/AFCS.pdf
chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.chinook-helicopter.com/standards/Army_D_Model_AQC_Classes/Flight_Controls.pdf
chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19820015337/downloads/19820015337.pdf
edit: It would be great to hear from any real world Chinook pilots. Are there any here on the forums?