[RELEASED] Rara-Avis Sims Bulldog Autogyro

Just gotta wait for it to drop on the xbox :blush::+1:

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Check this out!! What the actual…??!

Winds depended which way I faced but went from 6kts to 50kts, to 120kts and one specific heading turned it up to 160kts gusts!!! The water was affected and the trees swaying, and the sound effects. If it’s a bug, I ain’t seen this one before!?! Gonna try restart flight! I need to land in that stadium!

LOL that’s crazy. Those waves looked quite cool though if you ignore the glitches. Just loaded up a flight there to catch the winds but it seems the fun is over and the weather is behaving :slightly_frowning_face:

Yeah weird one. It must have glitched out. Restarted the flight and it was different. Still 30kt winds though and it depended what way I faced still, with as low as 6kt if I faced north. But website says Barcelona now is 3mph wind. And this was Live Weather … so :man_shrugging:

@Megadyptes7635

Here’s my 2 days of efforts :slight_smile: – more to come!

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The Allianz Stadium in Sydney looked like a right nightmare. You win the Challenge Award with Keyham Sports Field in Plymouth. I can only imagine the hours of tries that one took :wink: And it’s absolutely criminal that you can’t get through that gap at Wembley! Cheers for the vid!

In other news, while I was going through tons of seaplane base sceneries yesterday I got to thinking about how cool an autogyro on floats would be for the sim. Wonder if @RaraAvisSims could be persuaded to add some floats to the Bulldog?

I did some googling about autogyros on floats and saw this fun looking contraption:

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Something seems a little off on purchasing this, a couple questions:

  1. Is inibuilds safe to buy from, reason I ask is JustFlight wants $22 but ininbuilds has it for only $14 (too good to be true?)

  2. How do customers get updates on this, there are no change logs to look at, no way to contact the creator other than an email, who notifies us when a new version comes out?

Yes Inibuilds is reputable. Just Flight is always more expensive for me too, not sure why. That’s why I’m waiting for it to come to some other web stores which end up being cheaper.

Typically each web store will email customers when updates happen, along with the changelog.

Inibuilds is a legit dev and storefront. Dunno why the pricing is so differnet for you but for me in the UK Justflight has it for £13.19 VAT included and Inibuilds have it for £10.99 without VAT included in the price which brings it up to £13.19 rounded up when the VAT is added on in the checkout.

JustFlight emails you when you products you’ve bought from them get updated and you just redownload it from your account section. Inibuilds have an app you have to download stuff through and that tells you if there’s an update, can’t actually remember if they also email you.

That seems to be highly regional. For me buying from JustFlight usually ends up being the cheapest option when buying in pound sterling, and Orbx tending to be the most expensive after taxes get added on.

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Yes it’s strange. I’m in the US, so possibly VAT being included on Just Flight means it’s more expensive for me, while other stores which don’t include VAT don’t charge me for it, since I’m not in Europe. Not sure.

The JustFlight price in what I assume to be USD ($22) is quite high still, more than VAT would account for so dunno what’s going on there!

It will add the 20% VAT (or your local rate) when you check out. Or it should show the final price if you log in to your account first. It should end up roughly the same final price IMO.

And yeah, Orbx always seems a bit pricier. The Orbx Tax. If it pays for them to support their app and very fast servers, I don’t really have a problem with a slight premium to buy there as I do find it the best store overall.

Yeah you’re right. That’s like nearly £18 so seems a mistake? Maybe Craig can investigate? @RaraAvisSims

Yeah that was not a lot of fun that one.

You say that, but I still overran and ended up chopping my head off on a melted stone bench :slight_smile:

Actually, you can, but I didn’t make the landing on that attempt :slight_smile:

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Hmm not sure, both stores work out the same amount here in the UK, so its possibly a regional thing.

The flight model seems way off for an autoyro, which should drop onto a postage stamp of your choice, but it is an enjoyable thing to mess around in. I wonder what some rotary headed modder might come up with though? I think it would make an ideal subject for an FM upgrade. Until then and for STOL operations I may as well take the Caravan, but you cant deny the character, the fun and the smile it brings to your face. It is certainly something both original and different.

I am totally no expert but I think surely it depends on the model?

This thing is a brute with a massive engine. And it’s BIG and heavy compared to a tiny solo autogyro. And the overhead blades are unpowered. They need forward motion (or air travelling through them vertically up) to create any additional helping lift. So when you are really slow they don’t have enough effect. It’s not a helicopter.

To be fair the only “experience” I can call on is seeing one fly at Duxford one time. Not sure what it was (what make / model, probably a home build jobbie, very small and light but aerobatic — photo below) but it didn’t really look like it was capable of vertical landing.

Also they are (and the Bulldog is) very strongly affected by winds. I do actually have a recording I can upload (didn’t think I was recording but I was) landing pretty much at zero speed in only 6kt headwind. I’m getting used to be able to be more confident in it now after the many Stadium Landing attempts and for sure if you pull the nose back to stop forward motion, AND juggle the throttle and rudder sensitively, you can definitely keep it almost hovering and come down as required. Not easy, but it’s on the edge.


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Hi Baracus, much of what you write is correct and the aircraft can be fiddled down to the ground but it takes a looong time. That unpowered rotor is what is giving lift and this is all about energy management and so the descent is actually giving that rotor energy rather than it dribbling away to zilch. There seems quite a high residual thrust here from that lovely radial up front and I plan to do an experiment or two by shutting it down entirely to see what that rotor on top actually does in auto rotation.

I am no expert at all here other than casually reading accounts of the Ken Wallis machines down the decades and also being a person that has had one helicopter lesson - and one engine failure :slight_smile: Keep up your epic work on your various magnum opus threads, they are great fun.

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I think I saw that same autogyro at the Weston Air Festival a year or two ago. It was quite impressive.

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Likewise, and also I think at Yeovilton a few years back. Both displays were very impressive.

Great videos from both of you.

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