Done: Chipset drivers downloaded/installed. Completed a flight in 24, all systems go.
Please what’s next on the hit parade? Thanks!
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The next step would be to update BIOS.
Once the BIOS is updated, it’s also worth checking BIOS settings.
It might be a good idea to take photos of the current BIOS settings, just as a precaution. However, I suspect your settings are likely default, with the only change being the activation of EXPO.
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@Nikita I just realized I forgot to mention something important - the latest BIOS version for your motherboard is a beta version. So, there’s no need to update the BIOS at this time.
You can go ahead and proceed with adjusting BIOS settings instead.
Got it. Please what to adjust next?
Congrats for your new PC 
Other than enabling the XMP/EXPO RAM profile and installing all the drivers, in my opinion the most important thing is to tweak your CPU to unleash its full potential.
You can do very safe & easy undervolting by setting the “Curve Optimizer” feature to “All Cores” with a negative(!) offset of 20 or 25. You can also add 200 Mhz to the base clock speed. These two changes will boost your average CPU clock speeds quite a lot.
I have an ASUS mainboard where things are to be set up differently, so for further details on how to set it up in your BIOS @TenPatrol should be able to help since you both have the same board.
There are many more tweaks, like RAM tweaking that goes way beyond simply enabling XMP, undervolting individual CPU cores for further optimization and so on…but this is hard to do if you don’t know what you are doing.
If you tweak your system to the max you can gain up to 10-12% more performance for free. A more mild tweaking that can be explained and shown to you here is probably boosting your performance around 3-5 % while keeping your system relatively cool.
Also I very much agree with your remarks regarding Series X vs 5070 TI/9800X3D. It is not a monumental difference, far from it and I hope you are playing on a 1440p monitor with the 5070 TI because that’s what this card was made for. The REAL gap that will actually blow your mind begins with a RTX 4090 setup. But that is very costy of course.
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Thanks for the kind words. Flying the PMDG 738 now in 2020, so back to BIOS tweaking a little later. Outputting 4k (3840x2160) to the same 64” Samsung Q80 that the Series X drove, truly awesome either way! The 5070 Ti is super nice for all the bad press Nvidia is getting these days, and I got a good one too with all the specified render units intact!
There were (are) so few, if any, graphics cards out there to buy that when one, literally one, was in the store, I just bought it. One day down the road maybe upgrade, but with 16GB VRAM it is a very happy medium delivering 4k, no sweat. Good flying and thanks for the input too!
I can help you with BIOS settings in a private message.
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Thanks for starting this thread, you and I are a lot alike. I’m a die-hard Mac user (just picked up a Mac Studio M4 Max), but use PC for gaming (Flight Simulator mostly). I just ordered the parts to build my system which is nearly identical to yours.
Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7GHz
ASUS Prime RTX 5070 Ti OC edition 16GB
2 x 32GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5-6400 CL32
MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk WiFi AM5 ATX motherboard
MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850W Plus Gold P/S
Samsung 990 Pro 4TB NVMe M.2 SSD
Really getting exsited to build this thing, should be fun! And, lots of good tips in this thread, so I have it bookmarked.
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Hello all, and thanks for keeping this topic alive, as I couldn’t find out how to start a new one 
This is also my first post here, and I very much need your gang’s advice on building a new rig for MFS2020/2024, please, as a most experienced group out there. So, I am still in Prepar3d v 4.5…not even in V5. Thanks god it still works in VATSIM! That says a lot, right? About my dinosaur-era PC, for sure! And I am finally building a new one, but I lost sleep because of the GPU choice. And I would really-really appreciate your help! I don’t have a ton of bucks to spend, but I also know that I am building a decent rig that should last for the next…let’s call it many years…and it has a price. Location-wise, it is the UK where I am ordering it. And it is an AMD build, as I completely lost track of Intel’s stuff over the years.
So, back to GPUs: 4070 Ti Super (£848); 5070 Ti (£880) or AMD 9070 XT for £755. Obviously, 9070 looks very tempting…but is it worth the risk…or is there a risk at all? The rest of the build will be as below:
- Ryzen 7 9800X3D or Ryzen 7 7800X3D (should I overspend an enormous £25 for 9800 x3D? Probably yes, but what do you think?
- Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING
- 32GB DDR5 6000MHz Corsair Vengeance 2x16GB (yeah, I don’t need 64Gb, right?)
- 2TB Kingston Fury Renegade PCIE 4.0 NVME SSD 7300/7000 MB/s
- Be Quiet! Pure Loop 2, 240mm Liquid CPU Cooler
- 850W Corsair Gold – RMe Series
Is there anything that looks odd (e.g. would 850W PSU be enough for 9070 XT?), or anything that can be replaced with a more budget-friendly alternative? Feel free, I am open to any good advice!
Now, what am I expecting it to run on a balanced set of Ultra/High settings, giving me stutter-free (well, we know it is never “free” free…but…) experience in 2k resolution (I am not chasing 4k at all…at least now, not in the near future either). It must chew nicely ORBX and other known “heavy’ish” sceneries, cope with VATSIM and its traffic (I rarely fly offline, only if testing something), obviously weather, and I mainly need it for a PMDG 737-700/800 (BBJ to be precise) and maybe one-two other nicely built bizjets near to the same level as pmdg quality (if there are any at all). Not interested in small GA, bush/recreational flying, nor overly oversized birds like A380, A350 or 777 alike. Visiting heavy, big airports? Not super heavy, so would never go into JFK, or ATL, EGLL or KLAX, or EDDF…instead it’d be EGSS, EDDK, KBOS or KBUR or KPSP, or KAUS, or KBWI, so you got an idea
Any other AAA games? Well, yes, maybe, but the priority is to run MFS nicely, aiming for the 2024 version, but I would be equally happy with the 2020 if it gives the best performance.
Streaming, working with graphics, video editing, etc etc: Nope, not at all!
Apologies for the long read, but I just wanted to give as many details as possible for a better understanding of what I am trying to achieve. Cheers, guys, for looking into it!
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Good morning and welcome aboard! I’m no expert and there is a lot to chew on in your post! I think you might consider the configuration in my OP and the post immediately above yours from Ducati Crab as a potential sweet spot for 2k High/Ultra. Your ad-mixture of budget and future proof is a tough one, as many budget parts may work fine today, but have no upgrade path. For example, a PCIe 4 vs. 5 motherboard. When at the store I asked why not a B650E and got a short/quick education there.
Long story short, the config I bought is really the minimum worth buying new to run MSFS smoothly 4k with high settings (and an ultra or two set in 24). Finally, the latest gen GPUs are really something unless you can find a used last gen one (new ones are widely sold out). You’re going to get a lot of advice, but the above is how I made my build/purchase choices after reading a lot of forum posts and asking a few questions. Your dilemma: performance on a budget now vs a future (or even present) proof build: AMD/PCIE motherboard generation is at stake.
Thank you, Nikita. Looking forward to feedback, and in the meantime, going through all the posts here. So far, then 5070 Ti and X670E are things to consider, while I guess for now I’d stick to 32 GB of RAM, unless 64 is something the community would strongly recommend to think about…and really hope there will be any 9070XT users here for their hands-on experience and opinion.
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Sorry to bring up an old post. I just finished my build last night and now in the process of installing OS and this was one video I was looking at.
In your experience how does this debloating react to Windows updates? Do the updates undo this initial debloating?
I haven’t any problems with Windows Updates - except once.
The debloated version was supposed to prevent 24H2 updates for a year, but 6 months after the install Microsoft snuck it in on me.
It’s possible that I’ve misunderstood how it’s supposed to work. But since I immediately reverted to a C: drive backup done a couple of days before , I haven’t seen it forced on me again. I have been accepting all the 23H2, .NET, and security updates, and my computer is running very smoothly.
All the bloatware I deselected during the initial install is still gone. I suspect 24H2 might have restored at least some of them, but I didn’t give it the chance.
Windows 11 Balanced Power Plan for the OP PC config in MSFS 2024?
And same Power Plan for both 2020 and 24 or different for each sim?
Thoughts? Thanks!
I think with OP’s 9800X3D (which is a single-chiplet design) letting Windows balance core parking and core affinities is appropriate. Thus, I’d use the Balanced Plan with Game Mode ON.
As always, CapFrameX tests (same aircraft, same altitude, same weather preset, same graphics settings, same area, same flight path) will help decide.
Ok, which Game Mode specifically? Game Mode in BIOS (my MB is an MSI) or something in Windows, and if so where please? Thanks!
Windows
Win+I (opens Settings page)
Open ‘Gaming’
Toggle ‘Game Mode’ ON
Don’t enable anything that refers to ‘Gaming’ in BIOS.
I don’t know whether enabling ‘X3D Boost’ in BIOS would be beneficial for a single-chiplet CPU like the 9800X3D, but I know it’s not good for a dual-chiplet CPU like my 7950X3D.
As always, test changes with CapFrameX.
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