As we know, the successor to the 9800X3D will be released on January 29th, just two days from now. I’m wondering if anyone plans to buy 9850X3D?
I will, even though I already have a 9800X3D - I’ll give mine to my son.
So, what do we already know about the Ryzen 7 9850X3D? Apparently, it’s supposed to be about 6% faster than the 9800X3D - not a huge jump, right?
However, the extra 400 MHz could make a difference.
I’m wondering if that 400MHz increase will have a noticeable impact on the main thread performance and 1% low FPS - hopefully it will.
The new Ryzen isn’t that different from the 9800X3D - it has 400 MHz more in boost mode and the same TDP. So basically, we’re getting higher clock speeds with similar temperatures, which could be a definite plus.
Product name
Ryzen 7 9850X3D
Ryzen 7 9800X3D
Architecture
Zen 5 (desktop) with 3D V-Cache
Zen 5 (desktop) with 3D V-Cache
Socket
AM5
AM5
CPU cores
8 cores
8 cores
Threads - SMT
16 threads
16 threads
Base clock
4.7 GHz
4.7 GHz
Max boost clock
Up to 5.6 GHz
Up to 5.2 GHz
L2 cache
8 MB (total)
8 MB (total)
L3 cache
96 MB L3
96 MB L3
Total cache (L1+L2+L3)
L1 + L2 + 96 MB L3 (common marketing total)
L1 + L2 + 96 MB L3
Default TDP
120W
120W
Integrated graphics
AMD Radeon Graphics (integrated)
AMD Radeon Graphics (integrated)
Memory support
DDR5 5600 MT/s
DDR5-5600
I’m still wondering if that 6% increase is really worth it if I already have a 9800X3D. Well, we humans are explorers after all, so I’ll buy it anyway to find out if it’s really worth it
In any case, if someone has an older CPU than the 9800X3D, it seems to me that upgrading to the 9850X3D makes much more sense.
I’m looking forward to your thoughts, tests and comparisons.
Naive question but here goes: What do you make of the double die architecture with both dies having the X3D cache, if I’ve stated the question correctly, technically speaking? Cheers!
Just to clarify, the topic here is about the Ryzen 7 9850X3D, not the Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 - they are completely different CPUs. As for having 2xX3D cache, anything that improves CPU performance is obviously a plus.
The upcoming Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 will definitely shine in applications that need more than just a gaming CPU. And who knows… maybe it will become the new king …
The base clock of the Ryzen 7 9850X3D is 4.7 GHz, while the Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 sits at 4.3 GHz. Clock speed definitely affects gaming performance - though, of course, it’s not the only factor.
All we know about the Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 so far is just rumors and leaks.
Having a 9800 already, I won’t upgrade. There’s no way I’d bet several hundred dollars I’d even be able to tell the difference short of a benchmark to tell me there was one I trust it’ll be a rather nice piece of hardware though.
I already have 9800 coupled with a 5090 so will wait for zen 6. There will be no measurable or perceptible difference for the 9850 in MSFS24 or any other vs the 9800. Good luck to your explorations though…be sure to report back to us
I’m currently running an RTX 4090 with a 9800X3D as well, but I’m not planning to buy a 5090. I’m waiting for the next generation of GPUs instead.
I’m waiting because the RTX 4090 is more than enough for MSFS 2020, and when it comes to MSFS 2024, once Asobo improves performance, the 4090 should be sufficient as well. As for the CPU - that’s obvious: a better CPU means faster calculations and smoother performance. That’s why I always try to have a reasonably powerful CPU for gaming.
You might be right that I won’t notice any real improvement. And let’s be honest, for MSFS it’s always better to have a strong CPU than not. As I’ve already mentioned, I may not feel any difference at all, but I’ll still end up with the latest X3D, so I’m not going to complain
Thank you. Of course, I’ll share my impressions and run some tests. I also hope others will share their impressions and test results as well - that’s one of the reasons I started this thread.
I’m curious about it as I have a 7700x and thinking of upgrading… Basically 5% over the 9800X3D. It all depends of what’s going to be the actual street price over the 9800 as we can get it for 600$ here in Canada.
Be sure to keep us posted! I’d like one too but I can’t justify moving from a 9800x3D since I don’t have a son to gift it too
I’d be really interested whether it lowers the intensity or frequency of those occasional CPU spikes we still get, but with just +6% I doubt it and will wait for Zen6. Overall I’m mainly GPU-limited anyway in VR. If it were 10%+ I’d grab it.
We? I don’t get any CPU spikes - if you mean in MSFS 2024. I also don’t think I’ll be testing CPU performance in MSFS 2024, because let’s be honest, in its current state it’s just not suitable for proper CPU benchmarking.
That said, if anyone’s curious, I’m open to it and might also do a test in MSFS 2024. I’d also encourage others to do the same - the more tests, the better.
Oh didn’t realize you are still on 2020. By “we” I meant just FS2024 users in general, seems to be a common issue.
Just small spikes maybe every 30-120 seconds, but not always. But can happen even in “light system load” rural areas. Supposedly related to data streaming in. Usually cause a brief framedrop, which is a lot more noticeable in VR than 2D.
I forgot to mention - I don’t get any CPU spikes when flying in MSFS 2024. I only launch MSFS 2020 for testing purposes. This isn’t a thread about MSFS 2024 bugs, so I’ll leave it at that.
Well, in my opinion I don’t think you will see much of an improvement in FS2024 considering the base clock speed of 4.7 GHz is the same. The additional 400 MHz in the boost clock would improve benchmark scores but since the Sim doesn’t constantly run at boost clock speeds I don’t think there will be much of a gain. It sounds to me like the 9850 is just an overclocked version of the 9800. I would be interested to see what the tests reveal.
Some of that is probably the motherboard. My 9800 is at 5 Ghz pretty much all the time. But you’re probably right about a nearly insignificant improvement unless it’s something aside from clock speed that makes or breaks it.
Based on what I’ve read it’s literally the same CPU but binned better (because they cN produce high-binned version more reliably now), so they can clock it higher.
Flight Simulator 24 is notoriously heavy on the CPU, and it’s one of the few titles that benefits more from cores and clocks than it does from the addition of extra L3 cache. This is one of the few titles where the flagship Ryzen 9 9950X3D offers a lead over its cut-down, eight-core sibling, but the Ryzen 7 9850X3D manages to set a new bar 6.2% ahead of the Ryzen 7 9800X3D. That comes with a large increase in power consumption, mind you, but it’s still one of the clearer wins we saw for the Ryzen 7 9850X3D out of our testing.
I trust it’ll be a rather nice piece of hardware though.
