I’m sorry, but I am very confused.
So you save a master .flt file and then create another .flt flie at the beggining while in the cockpit? Then reload the second saved .flt file and copy the said parameters onto the master as you go in the flight??
Please add the current flight plan to .FLT file and have it recalled along with the rest of the .FLT information. For Bonus Points, add a tool on the bar to load and activate a .PLN file while in the aircraft, not just in the World Map area.
Can’t imagine why this has not been done, seems like a no-brainer.
I’m going to hazard a guess and say you’re on XBOX.
If not checkout sky4sim for PC. I recently discovered it allows me to do just this (and more).
Thanks for that info - no Xbox here - I’m running on a gaming laptop and also have a larger monitor just above it. So I may try Sky4sim.
And I found the older thread about this same issue so mine should probably be closed.
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Save/Reload functionality, to work properly, should involve adopting the STATE MODEL methodology, whereby every time a variable (not a fixed “parameter” that never changes, but something that can change or be changed by the program or the user) appears in the program, or is added, it is put into the “STATE VECTOR”. Then the Save function simply saves this state vector and the Reload function reads in the saved values for the variables. If this is strictly adhered to, it will work flawlessly, as demonstrated by commercial software that many (including myself) have written which is still in use after many years and is freely interruptible and restorable. This involves some global data structure in which the state vector can be written/read, which can include the variables as actually accessed in the program, or more likely, for memory read/write efficiency, be a linear structure into which and from which the values of the “working” variables are written/read. In order to make this compatible with add-ons, Asobo (or whoever) would need to make furnishing “hooks” for saving and restoring the add-on’s state vector a REQUIREMENT for all add-ons. Then any call to save the state of the simulator would include a call to the add-ons’ save hooks, and similarly for restoring a saved state. Of course, this would (unfortunately and evidently) be a major effort with a code like this that has grown like topsy. But it would be a great target for any future rewrite of the simulator. And it requires discipline by the programmers to be certain that no state variables are accidentally introduced without being added to the state vector. Version differences between the version from which a state was saved and the version to which it is being restored require additional care: if space is not the primary concern, then state variables can be labeled, allowing the restore algorithm to insert default values for the fields not originally saved (which already violates the notion of a state vector, of course) or to skip state variables no longer included in the new state vector. But default values for new state variables (for example, for a new piece of equipment added) might be able to be given good enough default values to work well… and if not, then there’s not much to be done except to indicate that saves from version A may not be loaded into version B. A “debug” mode, writing and reading even larger state vector files, can make them human-readable, allowing much easier debugging during development.
Just my $.02 worth, after reading about the many frustrations with improper saves/restores in MSFS 2020.
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I wish the Asobo folks would listen to you and other knowledgeable people. Significantly, the state vector should include everything needed to re-create whatever flight plan exists in the MCDU/FMS at the time of saving the flight.
Sorry for my rough English 
I wish to be able to locate the aircraft in the condition I left it in after leaving MSFS:
Position in the parking lot,
Positions of all switches & toggles (for exemple: battery discharged if forgotten on “battery on” and "lights “on”):
- parking brakes
- controllers (throttle, mixture, propeller)
- flapps
- instruments & systems
- trims
- fuel tank selectors (& fuel quantity)
- lights
- heating
- doors and windows (open or closed)
- …
ha… you got that right
although for me thats just a nuisance, i can live with it
what really bothers me is not being able to save mid-flight and pick it up where i left it. I like to do long haul flights and i dont have 14 hours of free time. We have the sim rate function, yes, but that is also a bit broken imo, no rate indicator, no return to 1x command, and if you push it too hard the game crashes, and if you are in the middle of a long haul flight.. that is A BIG bummer…so to avoid loosing my game, i dont go past 2x
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I am having the same issue.
I am looking into solution to work around be able to change flight plan in game. And also developers to fix it as it was all possible in fsx and previous microsoft simulators. (There are so many things fs9 and fsx could do. And now it cannot. Feels like walking backward with the game in thouse areas.And leaves me frustrated with this otherwise perfected game.)
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Well please share that solution when you get it. However, I wonder if you should wait until SU15 comes out, unless it is already out. SU15 might “wipe” out your solution to saving a plan mid-flight.
One solution. for GA planes with GNS530/430
While flying, use an existing FP, or Create you FP in Simbrief or LNM (or edit it there), and then Import it into the PMSD50’s GTN750.
Once imported, and then loaded, it will cross populate into the Plane’s GNS530/430 while you are flying.
Hallo everyone,
I wanted to ask if there may be something new to work around using save load option please?
I am especially considered about ability to update real weather and real time after I load my saved flight (lets say from yesterday from where I like to continue.
I will be very grtefull. Becouse in present state. After I load any saved flight the weather seems stuck and will not update. Also weather and time option at toolbar is grayed out so I cannot update change it and also ingame time. It is the pain for me.
I only use quick resume now. But sometimes it will not resume and it opens up in a main menu.
I now start a flight with options "all players, real weather and real time and real traffic and multiplayer. So after quick resume the next day. It allows me to update time and weather fine and real traffic hopefully too as multiplayers. But I would wish to not use option " all players " in the begining setting. but only “players with setting same real settings”. So I play only with more realistic players around me. But if I go with that. On next day on resume my game setting weather and time is grayed out. And it will not update it self. So frustrating.
So. I wish if there is something I may be missing to make it working with my next flight.
(Save load outcome is very much the same. Weather and time stuck. Unable to update it. The toolbar after loading a flight I can get back after using “restart” button after i loaded my save. So toolbar i can fix getting working again. But weather and time is stuck all the time.)
I will be happy for any info from you guys. I voted for it already to be fixed. So i will see. Or in 2024 hopefully.
Have a good flight everyone.
PS: I am very happy for you people here. Helping each other. Also beeing nice to me. Even I was shooting some my frustration with a game and was acting kind of pain in the axxxs. So I apology for it. And thank everyone for undarstand and let me cool down and better understand this forum. Thank you.
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If the save functionality isn’t sorted soon, then it’s a deal breaker for me and FS2024. Eye candy is one thing, but I have a life outside simming that interferes with flights sometimes. Please fix it.
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I totaly understand you.
I also wish it to be fixed a lot.
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Fs users need to support this in general they dont .no save and restore in real life . This is why it is not fixed the user base does not support it being done. I have been asking for this since day 1. Now for the workaround. Use only pmdg they support save and restore. Boycott all other developers they cant be bothered . Buy flow pro adjust time and weather after restore.buy active sky for historical weather .job done. This is my number one bug.
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It’s very unfortunate that we still don’t have a working saving\loading feature. The scenery, cockpits, atmosphere depiction, airflow simulation and flight physics are all amazing upgrades over FSX, but there’s a lot of little things that I miss - things we’ve had since the early days of the Flight Simulator franchise. I don’t think it should be up to third party aircraft devs to create their own saving and loading system. This should be a standardized feature built into the sim.
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FYI, in the March 14th Development Update, this Wishlist item is #42 on the list with a status of “Under Investigation”.
With the focus moving to the release of MSFS2024, IMO I think it highly unlikely that there will be any traction on this issue before next year. Nr. Neumann mentioned in the April Dev Livestream that the next SU (16) will be in 2025 - see the section titled " What are the plans for supporting FS20 after FS24 is released?"
If the functionality is in MSFS 2024, it might be backported next year, as per the comment in the dev livestream ("…So there is a SU16 planned. It looks like it’s going to be early in 2025. And that will bring some of the features, as Martial mentioned a few earlier, like some of the things from 2024 will be backported if possible…)
In the meantime, it would not hurt for this item to get a bunch more votes to move it up the list a bit too… 
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You are saying it very well. I also think it is bug that must be fixed. Otherwise that are giving us not working save/load system thay claim is working. It is leaving me frustrated. And I also am aware about so many things fs game most earlier versions had. And when I see a lot of game systems nerly copy and paste in 2020 version already. And dont undertand why so many thouse basic and working and enjoyable features are not included. Oh.
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Kyle9405, Did you try to modify your flight plan using the cockpit FMC? I have done that in the stock 747-8.
Thank you SeaCelery. I only tried to make flight plan via garmin in some small airplane.
I dont fly big jets now.
I tried there everyting with it. But it never gave an option to request this plan from ATC to get an IFR or even VFR clearence.