Seems to be getting worse, I don’t recall the Xcub and Icon to have water handling issues like this. . To bad I can’t easily switch back and forth to SU9.
Just reverted back to SU9. I can confirm Icon and Xcub are night and day better. I can actually turn. The Pilatus is completely broken on either update.
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Steering the Icon A5 in water is practically impossible as the airplane steers itself into the wind even with full left/right rudder and even with calmer winds <10kts
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How about the Cessna G1000 on floats? Has anybody tested this in the SU 10 beta?
In SU 9, even with the water rudders in the water, I still can’t turn the 172 if the waves are a little choppy and there is a little wind in live weather.
I have noticed that bad behavior on the C172 and I really believe that the problem is due to the wind.We know that on the runway the C172 is very difficult to handle with winds…same happens on water.However ,while on water,If you give more power and go faster then you can make turns more easily.It looks like if you “navigate” at low speed the rudder is unable to compensate the wind effect.
I guess the water physics will also be reworked at some point in future - right now they are still the same as they were from FS8 (aka FS2002) ongoing.
Only the mesh changed by now from entirely flat to 3D.
This bug report has nothing to do with the past physic issues of MSFS. This is a bug that was introduced in beta10 causing planes to just not work at al in water.
I agree with you.I am on SU9 too and can confirm once more that there is a problem with the wind effects on some boat planes like 172 (which has the exact same problems on the runways…) . I have just tried once more a “see navigation” with the C172 and,if you set custom weather and zero wind,you can make nice turnings. With winds,instead, the effects on this kind of planes is strong (plane nose goes toward the wind, as it does IRL…) and difficult to counteract with the rudders.However,at about 10 kns,if you give thrust and rach about 50 knts speed, you can make high radious turns…if you have enough water around you.
I have recently purchased the sea plane Savoia-Marchetti (very nice plane) and did the same trials on custom set-up with and without winds and it always turns nicely on water…So,in my opinion, it is really a problem related to the config of each type of the planes.
However,it’s possible that things got worse on SU10 BETA as RATTMAN is reporting.
I have encountered the same issue today. C172 Float (steam gauge variant).
Landed at a seaplane base with roughly 10kts headwind.
When I wanted to turn around to make it back to the docks, I could not for the life of me turn the aircraft around. Full rudder turned the aircraft roughly only 10-15 degrees to either side, before the aircraft hit a wall and bounced/got pushed back. Same into the other direction.
In the end I had to use slew mode to get back to the docks.
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Since the release of MSFS, planes that are capable of landing on water are uncontrolable there even with the water rudder down. You can’t steeer them using the water rudder and they are unresponsible to any control input. Provide Screenshot(s)/video(s) of the issue encountered:
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Just try to control an aircraft landed on water PC specs for those who want to assist (if not entered in your profile)
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Since the release, still present int the last update (1.18.13.0) Are you on the Steam or Microsoft Store version?
Steam, but it’s not applicable either for this bug
I flew both the new amphibious C172 and the freeware Grumman Goose this morning, both were perfectly controllable in the water via rudder pedals (and I had the pleasant surprise to see that amphibious planes can now do ground / water transitions).
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