Sea Plane variants don’t steer properly in water

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Brief description of the issue:

Seaplane variants are not correctly steering in water. I have tested 3 planes, X-Cub, icon A5, and Pilatus PC-6 (very noticeable on this plane)

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While in water apply throttle (water rudder engaged) plane will fight the rudder to go straight.

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Xbox, Hotas One ,and xbox controller


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That’s partly a regression from SU9 :slight_smile: I’ll link the bug

Seems to be getting worse, I don’t recall the Xcub and Icon to have water handling issues like this. . To bad I can’t easily switch back and forth to SU9.

Just reverted back to SU9. I can confirm Icon and Xcub are night and day better. I can actually turn. The Pilatus is completely broken on either update.

I believe this issue also affects 3rd party content like Bagolu’s “C172 Amphibian” mod.

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Steering the Icon A5 in water is practically impossible as the airplane steers itself into the wind even with full left/right rudder and even with calmer winds <10kts

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How about the Cessna G1000 on floats? Has anybody tested this in the SU 10 beta?

In SU 9, even with the water rudders in the water, I still can’t turn the 172 if the waves are a little choppy and there is a little wind in live weather.

I have auto rudder set to off.

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I remember this being fixed in like SU5. Now it’s completely back again. Can’t steer seaplanes at all.

I have noticed that bad behavior on the C172 and I really believe that the problem is due to the wind.We know that on the runway the C172 is very difficult to handle with winds…same happens on water.However ,while on water,If you give more power and go faster then you can make turns more easily.It looks like if you “navigate” at low speed the rudder is unable to compensate the wind effect.

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It’s not the wind. It’s definitely some other issue. Even with wind off it does the same thing in any direction.

The water physics are non-existent. It’s been like that from the start. Xplane 12 has it right, if water operations are what you desire for authenticity.

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I guess the water physics will also be reworked at some point in future - right now they are still the same as they were from FS8 (aka FS2002) ongoing.

Only the mesh changed by now from entirely flat to 3D.

This bug report has nothing to do with the past physic issues of MSFS. This is a bug that was introduced in beta10 causing planes to just not work at al in water.

In SU9 right now, I can’t steer the Cessna 172 G1000 Float Plane on water, if the waves a little choppy, not even with the water rudders in the water.

So there are already steering issues in water with SU9, with the Cessna 172 G1000 Float Plane at least.

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I agree with you.I am on SU9 too and can confirm once more that there is a problem with the wind effects on some boat planes like 172 (which has the exact same problems on the runways…) . I have just tried once more a “see navigation” with the C172 and,if you set custom weather and zero wind,you can make nice turnings. With winds,instead, the effects on this kind of planes is strong (plane nose goes toward the wind, as it does IRL…) and difficult to counteract with the rudders.However,at about 10 kns,if you give thrust and rach about 50 knts speed, you can make high radious turns…if you have enough water around you.
I have recently purchased the sea plane Savoia-Marchetti (very nice plane) and did the same trials on custom set-up with and without winds and it always turns nicely on water…So,in my opinion, it is really a problem related to the config of each type of the planes.
However,it’s possible that things got worse on SU10 BETA as RATTMAN is reporting.

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I’m not sure which Beta build fixed it, but I am not noticing this issue anymore. I’ll keep an eye out on this issue in newer builds.

Moved to #bugs-and-issues:aircraft-systems.

I have encountered the same issue today. C172 Float (steam gauge variant).
Landed at a seaplane base with roughly 10kts headwind.
When I wanted to turn around to make it back to the docks, I could not for the life of me turn the aircraft around. Full rudder turned the aircraft roughly only 10-15 degrees to either side, before the aircraft hit a wall and bounced/got pushed back. Same into the other direction.

In the end I had to use slew mode to get back to the docks.

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