Same. Been waiting since Oct for this release now. I mean, I already have a 5800X3D but I’m tired of having to fly on a TLOD of 150 - or less - just to get a smooth experienced. Even the frame gen on my 4080 can’t hide those stutters from asobos poor optimisation.
There are already a few tests online comparing the 7900X3D to the 13900K and they seem on par. That is again because most games don’t use that many cores, I assume. We’ll have to wait and see how it is with MSFS but I assume the difference in performance won’t justify 100 quid extra for the 7950 version. Although the 139000K performs great in MSFS, as seen in various streams and vids, I really don’t want to upgrade my Mobo again the next time I’ll updgrade my CPU.
Well looks like the 7900/7950X3D are up on Amazon EU now. 846 resp. 986 euro, yikes. Looks to be one specific vendor though, not Amazon directly but still others won’t be that far off I presume. Better wait for 7800 then or go Intel…
The 7950x3d would be a waste if your primary use is the sim (or gaming in general) because it’s requires shutting off half the cores and effectively turning it into a 7800x3d anyway. Best to save your money and wait until that CPU comes out.
If you’re only use is gaming, I’d say (not counting browsing and emailing). For any serious productivity, 8 cores are not enough, considering the price. This CPU is for those who work hard and play hard
I placed an in-store preorder in Canada Computers (west of Toronto) today - it was out of stock of course. But in-store full-price preorder worked for me 3 times in similar cases, where I got 3080 a couple of weeks after release, 5900X 3 days after release and 4090 on the release day, all of which remained very tough to get as MSRP for months, except maybe 4090 which also took a while to be in stock. They told me they got 2 CPUs for the store today, which were sold out instantly. But I’m the first in line for the next one they get, so there’s no huge line-up for those.
From what I’ve been seeing, you would be better off saving your money and going with the 7950x non-3d (or 13900k) if maximum productivity workloads was your goal.
The whole idea is to get a huge 3D cache boost for MSFS, while retaining top grade multicore performance. 7950X is a no-brainer for pure productivity and good non-MSFS gaming. But for MSFS + VR - there’s no question for me. It’s an expensive upgrade (virtually a new build) anyway, why let go of the main advantage of AMD line? It’s especially important for low 1% and stuttering, which is crucial for VR.
Could I ask what motherboard you are matching this up with?
My reason for asking is that I am waiting for the 7800x3d and have been wondering if an Asus Rog Strix B650 E F would likely be up to the job or in fact any B series MB.
I only need it for MSFS therefore I would really be glad if I could get here some suggestions what would be the best combination with which mobo, any help is appreciated. Would prefer something cheap in terms of mobo as the CPU will already be expensive, but I’m still keen to see some kind of benchmark results, where I need to see this is much better than i9-13900k and 5800x3D. From what I’ve seen 5800X3D is already doing better in MSFS, in terms of FPS, correct me anyone if I’m wrong.
This is the mobo I’ll be getting with the 7800x3d. I like it for all the usb ports on the back, 4 M.2 slots with heatsinks, extra goodies like PCIe 5.0 for future proofing, and the aesthetic. It can be had for about $390 right now at retailers.
I ordered ASRock X670E Pro RS ATX AM5. I don’t really see the point for paying almost twice as much for an expensive motherboard. I don’t understand what I’d be getting for extra $200 to $300. Expensive CPU and GPU doesn’t mean I’m ready to just throw my money away and get nothing in return. ASROCK has the top X670E chipset, 5 x M.2 slots, Gen5 PCIe. I have 3 M.2 SSDs already, so boards with only 3 M.2 slots are not a good idea for me. ASUS Prime-P variant was my second choice, though its VRMs are much weaker than every other board. That said, overclocking is mostly undervolting with curve optimizer + PBO for all X3D CPUs, and they have limited TDP of 120W, so it’s not like I’d need a lot of VRM headroom or any extreme overclocking abilities, which is what the expensive boards give you. I’d get ASUS if they made a good low-mid-range model, but it’s either the cheaper Prime-P or something much more expensive, so hopefully ASROCK will be good. All reviews say it’s built really well. It also has SP/DIF which I need, otherwise I’d have to use external USB audio interface, as I want to use my older DENON receiver’s DACs. That also means I don’t care about premium analog audio chipsets or jacks of the expensive boards either - I’d be using a digital passthrough anyway…
Great MB, smart choice. More expensive does not necessarily mean better choice.
For instance, I am going for a B650, not for budget reasons, simply because I need several PCIe slots. X670 designs are limited in that regard, even though the higher end chipset has more PCIe lanes.
Your mb is about the same price (£319 at CCL) as the Asus B650 mb I was considering (£309) but presumably it has a better chipset than the B650 being an X670 so this is definitely worth considering.
Like you I don’t want to spend £500 plus for a mb unless I have to so I will have a look at this too. I am starting a new build and have firmish ideas on most components but can’t yet decide on the best value mb.
The Gamers Nexus review put maximum power draw at 156 watts at stock settings on an all core workload. Not a lot more, but worth understanding the difference between TDP and true power draws. By comparison, the 7950x non-3D topped out at 250 watts, so it’s something to keep in mind in terms of future CPU upgrades. If you think you may end up with a higher power CPU later down the road, it may be worth spending a bit more now on a better mobo than to replace it all together later.
That’s why I passed on ASUS Prime-P, but the ASROCK already has - 14+2+1 Power Phase, 60A SPS. I’m not entirely clear on the math, and may be wrong, but roughly in 14 phases should mean a max load of something ridiculous like a kilowatt level. Sure, normal loads should be way less than max rated loads, but it looks to me that it’s an overkill even for 250W. Revivews on more expensive boards that have even more VRMs use words like “ridiculous overkill”, “massively over-engineered”, “VRM headroom for the most extreme overclockers” - I doubt PBO + CO undervolt can ever need more than 60A in a couple of CPU generations (unless it’s an Intel). Probably even the Prime-P is has than enough power, but it may be a bit borderline on the possibility of not being enough for a next-gen CPU.
What would be the best budget mobo and water cooler for 7950X3D then ? I still have my RTX 3080 10GB so I’ll keep that with me a bit. Got 750W PSU also, gonna keep that as well.
That’s why I passed on ASUS Prime-P, but the ASROCK already has - 14+2+1 Power Phase, 60A SPS. I’m not entirely clear on the math, and may be wrong, but roughly in 14 phases is should mean a max load of something ridiculous like a kilowatt level. Sure, normal loads should be way less than max rated loads, but it looks to me that it’s an overkill even for 250W.
I got DeepCool Castle 360 A-RGB on sale for $135 CAD about a month ago. DeepCool support said my serial is on the border between including the required hardware for AM5 or not, so this is a caveat. But my current cooler (DeepCool 360 Gammax L360 V2) is supposed to include this hardware, according to support, so I should be able to use them even if the new one doesn’t. With these prices there’s no point to use anything less than a 360 size AIO, as long as your case can accommodate it. I upgraded to ThermalTake View 51 and the vertical GPU mount for my new 4090, so space is not a problem - it’s absolutely huge.
I still have my RTX 3080 10GB so I’ll keep that with me a bit. Got 750W PSU also, gonna keep that as well.