Sim Update 5.1 Beta (1.7.30.0) Stability and Avionics Surveys

[SeedyL3205]

The team has requested additional survey data from the community. In our other forum survey, we asked you to rate Stability in general, but now we would like more specific information about the prevalence of crashes to desktop (CTDs) and Low Memory/Avionics issues in build 1.7.30.0. Please vote in the surveys below for your platform. Please note we have also separated Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S in these surveys for increased granularity.

Please do not post bug reports in this thread. If you would like to report a bug, please create a new topic (or upvote an existing topic) in the appropriate sub category of the Sim Update 5.1 Beta | MSFS 2024 section of the forums. Please use the full bug report template when creating a new bug report.

Thank you for your assistance in testing!

How often do you experience crashes to desktop (CTDs) in this build on PC?

• Never
• Rarely
• Frequently
• Almost every flight

How often do you experience Low Memory/Avionics issues in this build on PC?

• Never
• Rarely
• Frequently
• Almost every flight

How often do you experience crashes to desktop (CTDs) in this build on Xbox Series X?

• Never
• Rarely
• Frequently
• Almost every flight

How often do you experience Low Memory/Avionics issues in this build on Xbox Series X?

• Never
• Rarely
• Frequently
• Almost every flight

How often do you experience crashes to desktop (CTDs) in this build on Xbox Series S?

• Never
• Rarely
• Frequently
• Almost every flight

How often do you experience Low Memory/Avionics issues in this build on Xbox Series S?

• Never
• Rarely
• Frequently
• Almost every flight

How often do you experience crashes to desktop (CTDs) in this build on PS5 or PS5 Pro?

• Never
• Rarely
• Frequently
• Almost every flight

How often do you experience Low Memory/Avionics issues in this build on PS5 or PS5 Pro?

• Never
• Rarely
• Frequently
• Almost every flight

How often do you experience crashes to desktop (CTDs) in this build on PS VR2?

• Never
• Rarely
• Frequently
• Almost every flight

How often do you experience Low Memory/Avionics issues in this build on PS VR2?

• Never
• Rarely
• Frequently
• Almost every flight

How often do you experience crashes to desktop (CTDs) in this build on PC-VR?

• Never
• Rarely
• Frequently
• Almost every flight

How often do you experience Low Memory/Avionics issues in this build on PC-VR?

• Never
• Rarely
• Frequently
• Almost every flight

[Boeingspeedbird]

I presume you want data related to .30 update and not, as stated in the instructions, .28?

[Azlog]

First impression was done by loading into Geneva in the PMDG 737-800 with all players multiplayer. This hadn’t worked on previous beta version and had given me low memory warning but on this .30 version it did work and actually seemed quite good for performance

I then ended the flight and loaded in with same conditions into inibuilds Heathrow. Quite stuttery but it made it and avionics worked. Then tried to do a restart flight but this ended with a CTD

Hopefully get some flying in tomorrow afternoon to test properly

[BabyBamby17]

So far, as the update came out, I will say that there is only one remark, the real traffic in the tablet and in the simulator is not very correctly displayed, as well as there is no information about themselves on the planes

[TenPatrol]

@BabyBamby17

So far, as the update came out, I will say that there is only one remark, the real traffic in the tablet and in the simulator is not very correctly displayed, as well as there is no information about themselves on the planes

Live Traffic at airport on the world map & EFB does not match with live traffic once spawned

ISSUE DESCRIPTION Description of the issue: Live traffic displayed on the world map & EFB does not match with the traffic into the sim once spawned FREQUENCY OF ISSUE How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)? always REPRODUCTION STEPS Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue: enable real-time online setup aircraft traffic quantity/quality on high or ultra go to the world map, select a large…

[Arzgebirg1679]

Still low memory messages (big Planes) or constantly rebooting avionics (e.g. in the cessna citation longitude). So no progress for me. Sorry… we are not there yet.

(No addons, only MSFS 2024 Premium Deluxe Edition)

Base PS5 here.

Can we please get a fix for the root cause, and not minor tweeks stubling in the dark? The avionics processes (all of them !!) must be prioritized before any visual tree or cloud stuff. Offline or constantly rebooting/realigning avionics make the game unplayable… A missing cloud or tree does not.

[BabyBamby17]

I was already marked there, and I was discussing the topic with the full version of the game) and this is the beta

[Matt831064]

I will do more testing over the weekend with various aircraft, and then vote in the surveys. Big improvements for me so far though on Xbox series X.

[Maski1989]

Xbox Series X Career Mode is still unplayable I can’t even manage to load into the aircraft before a save error message pops up. And on the rare occasions when I actually do make it into the cockpit, I immediately experience a WASM crash or avionics failure. Unfortunately, there has been no improvement for me.

[JuanPa75]

Xbox X

I did a short flight (1 hour) on the A320v2 and didn’t get any low memory or avionics crash, EVEN using ATC and the EFB.

I also notice that the terrain radar is not working (?), was disabled?

[xPhoenixDecept]

On PC, subjectively I think CPU RAM usage is significantly lower - I recollect it hovering at around 30GB usually, whereas its now in the low 20s (out of 64GB DDR4).

Very smooth, only one stutter when I turned the comms window on.

[Stendec341]

Me too - will report later but have had smooth successful flights in PMDG 737s and the 2024 ATR-72. Going to try streaming some Inibuilds memory hogs next and see what happens…

Edit: all very smooth, no or minimal stutters and no CTDs or WASM orange screens to report so far
Xbox Series X. 16GB RC

[JuanPa75]

Baaaaad news.

Trying to test something more resources challenging LSZH/LFMN

after cockpit preparation complete, when asking ATC for IFR clearance:

LOW MEMORY

BLACK AVIONICS

CTD

so, no. It is not fixed.

[BabyBamby17]

After my arrival, the game actually showed memory filling, I flew for only 30 minutes from Barcelona to Rome) After which the simulator took off.

[zanglerX]

On PS5 Pro and the avionics are the same. Constant reset and blackout.

Improvement with airliners.

[Azlog]

Xbox series X. Live players. PG off. Airport static aircraft set to low with BravoAirspace ATG pack

RDpresets Geneva LSGG to inibuilds Heathrow EGLL - inibuilds A35K

From one heavy airport to another, this flight went without a hitch. A bit stuttery taxiing and a few stutters around 100ft on approach but otherwise I’m happy enough given how badly this aircraft can perform. Avionics held the entire time with no low memory messages

Now to go do some ATR and PMDG flights

[Boeingspeedbird]

A350 trying to depart from EGBB. As soon as I send a flightplan via the EFB to ATC then it’s game over - CTD. Xbox X

[Boeingspeedbird]

The above survey questions are not very meaningful as I have to decide which airports and which aircraft I will choose to give a high likelihood of a flight on any one occasion. Equally, I know which combination of aircraft and airports to avoid to reduce the likelihood of black screen, WASM, CTD, or low memory/avionics shutdowns.